Chapter 8 Turning Point (8,6600 votes)
Molotov is an old diplomat who has been a member of the People's Commissar of Foreign Affairs for many years. He has his own understanding and experience in political negotiations, and has dealt with all kinds of people for many years. He is also familiar with Ribintrov. . The fastest update is therefore, although he is at a disadvantage on the battlefield as a whole, he is still calm and does not show any timidity at all at all.
According to the normal negotiation process, such matters that are related to major issues between the two countries need to be negotiated first by low-level representatives, and the senior representative and the foreign minister will come forward when it is almost done. However, he is well aware that the situation is tense and cannot adopt such a calm approach, so he decided to conduct a straight-forward negotiation policy.
Before the negotiations, he considered many aspects and thought about how the Germans would force them, but he still had never heard of the serious nonsense like Ribbintrop. So he changed the topic at the right time and did not brag with Ribbintrop, so he decided to discuss some useful terms first.
He also thought carefully about the first breakthrough and chose not to discuss the key terms such as territory as the first step, otherwise it would be easy to break down. It must first go from small to large and slowly detour.
He first said: "Since your side believes that it is seeking common ground while reserving differences, but now we are willing to sit down to negotiate, does it reflect the spirit of seeking common ground while reserving differences? Can we cease fire for a period of time and reduce unnecessary losses?"
He thought the other party would refuse or make excuses, but Ribintrov nodded subconsciously: "It's okay to have a ceasefire, but people will die when fighting, but I'll add that not only will the ceasefire be ceased, but the army must be adjusted to avoid unnecessary misjudgment."
Molotov's smile froze, and the problem was stuck.
Now the Red Army is generally surrounded by the German army, and the route of transporting equipment from the Ural Industrial Zone to the southern wing battlefield has basically been cut off. If the fire is ceased and mobilized, it means that the main force of the troops is still in the German encirclement. The Germans can calmly mobilize supplies and supplies. The Red Army can only stare at and be anxious. Once the fire is reopened, the situation will be even more unfavorable.
He explained: "This, some troops should be gathered together, our side..."
Ribintrov nodded and agreed: "Or do you gather Stalingrad's troops to Astrakhan?"
OK, the second correction was also stuck, so Molotov had to change the topic and break through: "About our troops after the armistice, the scale of 2 million is too small. This is not only inconsistent with the status of a major country, but also in line with our security needs. Your country also needs to station 1 million troops, so..."
"It is precisely for security reasons that the head of state suggested that your army be limited to about 2 million." Ribbintrov explained seriously, "This is also for your good, because Vlasov will limit his army to about 1 million. In this way, with our 1 million, the strength of both sides will be roughly balanced. At that time, the Soviets deploy 500,000 troops on the Ural line, 500,000 troops on other borders, and 1 million in the Far East. We believe that we can meet the needs."
"You know, the neighbors in the Far East have some bad intentions."
"That's necessary to have strength." Ribbintrov sighed leisurely, "One million well-equipped and fought for many years, the brave and fearless Red Army soldiers are enough to defend the eastern Soviet territory."
Molotov was stunned for a moment, and "valiant and fearless" actually came from Ribbintrop's mouth, which always sounded strange.
"The Head of State believes that the Soviet Red Army is still very powerful, better than the French, British, and Americans. If the German Army is the world's number one, you can rank second in the world, so there are 2 million Red Army enough to defend our homes. As for us, don't worry, we don't plan to continue fighting under such a favorable situation now, and most of them will not choose to fight in the future unless they are forced." Ribbintrov's eyes turned, "Or, the Red Army is not convinced of the war and always wants to take revenge on us. We will fight in the future?"
"No, no..."
"It's good if not."
"But 2 million is really a little less, how about 3 million?"
Ribintrov shook his head: "2 million is enough. If there is too much, we can't sleep, and Vlasov can't sleep, and others can't sleep, so why bother? And since we talk about a truce, we are of course peaceful and sincere. We will send 500,000 troops to block the Ural Mountains. Vlasov cannot cross us to attack you. You are the same, and each other's safety is guaranteed. As EU leaders in the future, the head of state will certainly have comprehensive arrangements and considerations. In this world, it is not us who really insist on killing Comrade Stalin and the Bolsheviks, but the Russian People's Liberation Army and Vlasov. You know the specific principles..."
Now it's Molotov's turn to nod. Some people within the Bolsheviks said that the Russian People's Liberation Army was the most vicious enemy, and they were most afraid that the Germans did not participate on the surface after the Soviet-German truce, and secretly encouraged Vlasov to continue fighting. Although Ribintrop did not say it explicitly, he hinted that Germany would not use this method.
From Hoffman's view, neither Stalin nor Vlasov could unify Russia. This is the way to maximize Germany's interests. The best situation is that the two countries have a long confrontation, and Germany plays a mediator, so he will not allow Western Russia to annex Eastern Russia, nor will it allow Eastern Russia to counterattack Western Russia.
As for the Far Eastern territory, Hoffmann did not want Japan to attack Stalin. The two countries should maintain mutual restraint. Over-weaking Russia will only make it cheaper for Japan and eventually lead to Japan's indigestion and ending up being decisive. This is not conducive to Germany's global strategic deployment. Molotov already understands this.
"Also." Ribbentrop sighed and said slowly, "We are all so familiar with each other, and we don't hide some words. We really force Comrade Stalin to be impatient. He will not find any extra solutions to the 2 million army limit? At that time, what are the numbers of the internal police, Red Guards, workers' pickets, and young guards... These are all routines we have played. They could only arrange 100,000 troops by the Versailles Treaty. How much turmoil will it be caused in the end? The head of state sincerely hopes that the Bolshevik Party will be stable and united, develop the economy, and consolidate people's livelihood. We hope that different socialist paths and values will be explored together in the future. No one said that socialism has only one way."
Molotov was stunned. Is this still the ignorant champagne dealer? He has been very good at political theory these two days, and it is more than enough to be a member of the Politburo. This kind of words is almost the same for Goebbels or Hess. He asked nervously: "What about the weapons restrictions?"
"There are almost no weapons of mass destruction, and of course you cannot use weapons that are explicitly prohibited in international treaties!"
Ribintrov was vague about what weapons of mass destruction were, and Molotov couldn't explain it clearly. Anyway, aircraft, cannons, tanks, and warships did not fall into this category. As for chemical weapons and rockets, the Soviets themselves have limited strength, so they naturally didn't bother to worry about it. The Germans said they were big killing weapons.
Molotov thought to himself that this finally had some positive results. As the topic was ripped, he moved onto the border.
He frowned and complained, "Your border marking level is too harsh, and the Soviets have lost too much traditional territory."
"Is that? But Germany has not occupied your land. These territories are still within the Russian structure, and are nothing more than managed by different franchised republics." Ribbentrop said seriously, "The head of state for forming a Soviet Union regime and dividing it into the Menshevik Republic and the Bolshevik Republic has agreed, but the territory is limited to traditional Russian territory and cannot include other ethnic regimes. Demarcation of the Ural Mountains is conducive to clarifying the relationship between the two sides. Russia is originally a double-headed eagle."
"But Central Asia is still in our hands now, and you will take away these territories as soon as you talk."
"Making the independence of the various ethnic regimes is the consistent content of the Head of State's Eastern policy. In the future, the Transcaucasus will be divided into Georgia, Azerbaijan, and Armenian countries. These are independent regimes, and we don't want the Turks to get involved. As for Central Asia, the Fergana Basin is still under our control. As for the various ethnic regimes, you and I know it, so don't go to sue too much." Ribbintrov smiled and said, "The Tatars in Central Asia are not the same as you, and Comrade Stalin doesn't like them. Why do you have to bring them to live together? It's so awkward... You see, we don't want our non-traditional German territory. The Head of State also plans to place some of the Poles independently, so you don't feel annoyed."
"But there will be many legacy problems in this hasty demarcation. For example, there are a large number of Russian gathering areas in Kazakhstan. You can't just open your mouth and take your independence."
"The Head of State only demanded the restoration of the old territory of the Arash Autonomous Republic, considering this reality."
The Arash Autonomous Republic was an independent republic established after the October Revolution. It initially favored Belarus, with its capital in Orenburg. Later, it joined the Soviet Union and became one of the franchised republics. Its territory was smaller than that of the current Kazakhstan. This would be equivalent to hundreds of thousands of territories, and 2-3 million Russians could be included in Eastern Russia. Although Molotov was not satisfied, he had at least some positive results.
"As for other Central Asian countries, we have also considered it comprehensively." Ribbintrov explained the systematic decomposition of Central Asian territory.
The Central Asian territory will be established in the future on the basis of the Turkestan Soviet Socialist Autonomous Republic. This was originally the Turkestan Governor's Region during the Imperial Russia era. Before the Soviet Union was established in 1924 and passed ethnic demarcation, it also included Khwarezm and Bukhara Soviet People's Republic, etc., and planned to be subdivided into Turkmen, Uzbek, Tajik, Kyrgyzstan, Karakar Parkstan, Huarazm, Bukhara and other republics. For example, Karakar Parkstan was subordinate to Kazakhstan during the Soviet era, and this time it was independently independent. After a lot of things, Central Asia was divided into about 8 republics, among which Turkmen also involved part of the territory assigned to Iran.
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