The two people who have a closer relationship have been strolling through the river embankment while talking about specific issues in depth.

"Then, who is our enemy and who is our friend?" Hai Rui asked in a deep voice with his hands behind his back.

"Hai Gong wants to equalize the fields and grain, spread the land to the public, curb land annexation, and target the landlords... they are gentry who owns a large amount of land. All the problems in this world are ultimately a matter of interests, so our enemies must come from this group."

"Of course." Hai Rui nodded.

"Land is the foundation of life and life. Almost those who have little wealth will purchase land, so this group is too big to defeat. We must divide it piece by piece like cutting a big cake."

"Make the enemy a little?" Hai Rui sold out now.

"Yes." Zhao Hao nodded and said, "According to my observation, land owners can be divided into at least four categories. First, large landlords who are purely based on land rent and lending; second, emerging landlords who are profitable from land rent and lending; third, large merchants who mainly operate industry and commerce and use land as a means of preserving property value; fourth, small and medium-sized landlords who own the least land but the largest number of people."

"Well..." Hai Rui was twisting his gray beard and was very focused. He used to think that the landlord was a landlord, but he never thought that he could be divided in this way.

The benefits of such subdivision are self-evident. Dividing and conquering one faction and fighting another are all means by our ancestors to play a mess.

"What can be fought for among the four categories and which can only be attacked?" Hai Rui asked.

"I have to answer a question first," Zhao Hao said with a smile.

"May I ask." Hai Rui nodded.

"What is Hai Gong's view of justice and profit?" Zhao Hao asked nervously on the surface.

The so-called view of justice and profit is how to view the relationship between morality and wealth. If Hai Rui adheres to the Neo-Confucianism system, the problem will be difficult to deal with.

However, Zhao Hao was still a little confident, because Hai Gong always called "Qiu Wenzhuang".

Qiu Jun, who clearly proposed the "labor value theory", was the most outstanding economist in the Ming Dynasty and even the entire ancient history. It is hard to imagine that Hai Rui would regard him as an idol of his life if the view of justice and profit is too different.

Sure enough, I heard Hai Rui say without hesitation:

"I don't hate the rich, especially I advocate hard work to get rich, nor do I object to getting rich through industry and business. What I object to is just to take advantage of tricks and get it without work. I especially hate the ill-gotten wealth of the collusion between officials and gentry and fishing for the people!"

Zhao Hao looked up and felt relieved as if he had eaten ginseng fruit. He asked with a smile: "It seems that Hai Gong doesn't discriminate against businessmen anymore?"

"That is nature. Nowadays, the five people who serve the people are: scholars, farmers, workers, merchants, and military. Scholars use wisdom to enlighten the way, army defends the country, agronomical produces nine grains, and crafts use powerful tools. Merchants are all respectable people in my eyes."

He only heard Hai Rui say in a deep voice: "What I despise is that those who do not live in this body are like lazy people..."

Speaking of this, he obviously paused, but thinking that he had already had a slap in his arms with Zhao Hao, he should have said everything.

Still gritted his teeth and said, "And those who won for nothing!"

There is no problem with this statement in later generations, but it is very taboo in the Ming Dynasty, because there were huge parasitic groups such as vassals and nobles, who depend on the weak body of the country and greedily sucking blood.

That is the tumor of the empire.

But once there were no vassal kings in Jiangnan, there were only some nobles whose harm was far less than that of the former.

Secondly, that is not a problem that the two can solve at the moment, so Hai Rui just said it over and turned back to the topic:

"So I think it is not advisable to value profit over righteousness, but it is not right to value righteousness over profit. We should be 'both righteousness and profit'. As long as we don't get it for nothing, we should be encouraged to get rich. As long as it is not illegal income, we should not be deprived of it at will."

"Haha, you can answer the question from Hai Gong myself, right?" Zhao Haoyun smiled lightly.

"No," Hai Rui nodded and smiled, and then analyzed carefully:

"The first category is that land is their only one, so it is definitely the most stubborn. If you don't beat them up and get rid of hostility, you will not give up on hostility."

"The second type of foundation is also on the land, so it will also be hostile to us. But as long as we can protect their interests in industry and commerce, even if we cannot fight for them to join us, we can still keep them neutral and not follow the first type of people to be enemies with us."

"The third category is that land is not their foundation. As long as we protect industry and commerce, it is entirely possible to become our ally."

"As for the fourth category, although they are also landlords, they are still facing the exploitation and oppression of the big landlords. Our new policy is beneficial to them. As long as they eliminate their worries, they will naturally be our allies."

~~

After hearing this, Zhao Hao applauded Hai Rui and said, "Hai Gong can see it thoroughly, and I have this view."

"So, on the basis of relying on the hard-working people, we should vigorously unite the third and fourth types of people, and try our best to achieve the second type of neutrality. As one goes up and down, it will be much easier to concentrate our efforts to deal with the first type, and the rebound will be much smaller."

"But there is a premise, it is to 'encourage industry and commerce'..." Hai Ruiyan finished speaking, and pointed at Zhao Hao with a smile and said, "You kid are changing things and want to wait for me to say these four words, right?"

"This is not the selfishness of Jiangnan Company and me." Zhao Hao shouted at the sky and said: "It is not that Jiangnan's industry and commerce have become the pillars, and the citizens in the city need to say it. Even in the farmland, 70% of cotton and mulberry plants, and less than 30% of rice. It is because a Governor Ying Tian who does not discriminate against industry and commerce is the need of the entire Jiangnan and the need of the Ming Dynasty!"

"Your tune is so high." Hai Rui smiled and scolded: "Since you are worried, why didn't you ask me about the last time you met? Are you not afraid that you have found the wrong person?"

"I admit that I have the gambling element." Zhao Hao smiled embarrassedly and said, "But it has been a day or two for quarrel with Hai Gong. Moreover, when Guan Hai Gong was in Chun'an and promoting the country, he placed 'encouraging industry and commerce' after 'persuading agriculture and mulberry'. I guess he would not bet wrong."

Qiu Jun even fundamentally denied the traditional theory of emphasizing agriculture and suppressing commerce. He insisted that "food food is the foundation of people's livelihood."

Although Hai Rui is not as radical as Qiu Jun, he studied under Qiu Jun by supporting industry and commerce and revitalizing the economy. At that time, Hai Rui was able to assess the number one in the country in Chun'an County, and this was the reason for this.

In fact, of course, this question cannot be asked in advance, otherwise he would become Zhao Hao's election as governor. Where would Hai Rui be placed? Not to mention his strong self-esteem and the political sensitivity of a fourth-rank official would also make him flatly reject Zhao Hao's.

Now, it is called giving advice. Whether to listen to Hai Rui or not, of course there is no such concern.

The two looked at each other and smiled, self-evident.
Chapter completed!