1558. Chapter 1558 Competition
Chapter 1558 Competition Relationship
Although with the strength and current situation of the Dutch East India Company, it would be a bit overestimating one's ability to negotiate terms with Haihan during the negotiation process of the trade agreement. However, as the East India Company's minister in Sanya, Su Keyi still has to do his best to support his own camp.
Strive for some favorable conditions. At least after he made a compromise statement on behalf of the East India Company, Su Keyi believed that Haihan should also make certain concessions in certain areas, so that a balance could be achieved.
Schneider said with a smile on his face: "Mr. Nasu, please tell me the conditions first, but the ugly words come first. Your country's requirements must also be within the framework of the trade agreement I just mentioned."
Su Keyi said: "My condition is... I hope that your country can open the port north of Zhoushan to the East India Company after this, and allow our merchant ships to dock and conduct local trading activities."
Before Schneider could react to this, Thomas next to him couldn't sit still: "Mr. Su Keyi, you are too ignorant of the situation to make such a request. Haihan's control area in the waters north of Zhoushan Port is all military
How can we allow foreign merchant ships to enter and exit this important place at will?"
Su Keyi countered: "Really? I heard that your country's merchant ships have already passed the route north of Zhoushan."
Thomas' face changed slightly. The Portuguese merchant ship "Diego" had indeed received Haihan's approval and was allowed to join the transportation sequence of the northern route. If the voyage went smoothly, it should have arrived at Haihan's control area in Shandong by this time.
Zhifu Port, and may even go to the more distant Liaodong region. This is not a secret known to everyone. The movements of the "Diego" in the north are a highly confidential operation for Portugal. Even the people on the ship
The sailors may not know all the arrangements, and Thomas himself does not know the current exact location of the "Diego", but where did Su Keyi get the news?
After Su Keyi finished speaking to Thomas, he immediately said to Schneider: "As an important trading partner of Haihan, the East India Company, while fulfilling its obligations, also hopes to receive the same treatment as other trading partner countries!"
Ned was a little confused about its implementation at this time. Of course he was aware of the arrangement of the "Diego" on the northern route. This arrangement was originally made after consultations between the Ministry of Commerce, the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and the Ministry of Shipping.
The purpose is also to make the Portuguese more dependent on Haihan in the Far East trade. After all, the waters north of Jiangsu and Zhejiang are still restricted areas for the Portuguese. They can only enter with Haihan's approval. The "Diego"
The arrangement is a special case.
Dutch merchant ships are currently not allowed to go to the Haihan-controlled areas north of Jiangsu and Zhejiang. Even sailors with Dutch nationality and Javanese origin are not allowed to go to these areas. The reason is naturally because Haihan still has a certain degree of harboring towards the Netherlands.
He was wary and did not intend to let the Dutch operate in the northern seas when the situation in the north was not stable, lest they collect geographical intelligence in the north and then start immigration and trade activities on their own.
Taking into account the global competitive relationship between Portugal and the Netherlands, Haihan did not disclose the mission arrangements of the "Diego" on the northern route. However, Su Keyi brought this matter up to his face at this time. It was obvious that it came from a certain
The news was received through special channels, and they wanted to use it as an exchange for a compromise between the East India Company and Haihan.
But Schneider is not that easy to talk to. Although in many people's impressions, his image is that he is very slippery and unrestrained, they often overlook that he is actually a very principled person, especially when things have been decided.
, he will not make concessions easily.
"Concerning the arrangement of the northern route, our country has many issues to consider. The current conditions are not suitable for opening the northern seaports to the East India Company." Schneider saw Su Keyi's eyes glancing at the Portuguese, knowing what he was going to say, so he rushed to get there.
As mentioned earlier: "The Portuguese merchant ship operating on the northern route was hired by the Ministry of Shipping of our country to transport supplies to the northern ports under our control. If the East India Company's merchant ship also wants to receive such a task, it can first
Register with the Shipping Department and wait for arrangements.”
Schneider's implication is that if you Dutch people want to get the same treatment, then you can go through the formal channels and first go to the Ministry of Shipping to register and wait for the shipping date. As for when it can be scheduled, Schneider will certainly not give a clear
reply.
Schneider's answer sounded like a concession to the East India Company, but it was not. On the one hand, it showed that Haihan would not share the northern port with the East India Company for the time being, and on the other hand, it left a hole for the Dutch to
Haihan cannot be accused of favoring one over the other and deliberately targeting them.
Su Keyi was at a loss for words when he heard this answer. Schneider's move of retreating in order to advance was very sophisticated, and he didn't know how to deal with it for a while. It was not the first day he had dealt with Schneider, and of course he knew that he would go to the Shipping Department as suggested by Schneider.
Registration will actually have no effect. If you believe it in this situation, you will lose, but they have clearly put this official channel out, and there is no reason for you to ask the other party to change such an arrangement. It’s just that the old rival Portuguese is in this round.
It was obvious that he had gained a clear advantage, and the Haihan people were obviously biased towards him, which made Su Keyi unable to just swallow his anger.
"If the merchant ships of the East India Company cannot be treated fairly in the Ming Sea, then how can I believe that the trade standards promoted by your country can guarantee our interests?" After Su Keyi found that the conditions he proposed were politely rejected by Schneider,
Then the discussion was brought back to the previous issue. Only by tightly binding these two things together could Su Keyi have a chance to regain the current disadvantage in the negotiation.
Of course, Schneider immediately sensed the other party's intention, and smiled instead of being angry: "Mr. Su, I think you need to have a clearer understanding of the current situation of the East India Company. Regarding the trade agreement framework and related standards to be implemented in the future, today
It is to inform your country, not to solicit your opinion. Of course, the East India Company can choose not to cooperate and not implement the plan proposed by our country, but I have also made it very clear. Please be responsible for all consequences arising therefrom.
.As for the arrangement of the northern route, let me speak openly. If the trade agreement is not reached, then there is no need to consider other subsequent cooperation."
Schneider's attitude was even tougher now. If Su Keyi was unwilling to agree to the plan proposed by Haihan, it would be regarded as the East India Company's non-cooperation. As for sending merchant ships to enter the northern route, let alone dream about it.
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Thomas wasted no time in adding fuel to the fire: "If the Dutch friends feel that they have been wronged, then our country will be happy to accept the Dutch friends' business share in Haihan, and the price is easy to negotiate. Mr. Su Keyi, I suggest you consider it."
How could Su Keyi hand over the situation that he had managed to achieve by accident to his competitor? Dang even decisively rejected Thomas's "good intention" and then said to Schneider: "This is a really unpleasant meeting, but for the sake of East India
Company, for the sake of peace between the two countries, I think I still have to agree to your conditions. But I also hope that Chief Shi will remember one thing. Any cooperation is based on mutual benefit, and the East India Company will not have no bottom line.
We must make concessions to Haihan. If one day Governor Van Diemen thinks that the cooperative relationship will affect the development of the East India Company itself, then the cooperation between our two countries may come to an end."
"The pros and cons of cooperating with our country have become clear to the shareholders of the East India Company in the past few years. If there was no money made from the Far East, I don't think Governor Van Diemen's position would be so secure.
That’s for sure. At least when I last met with him, he personally admitted that the East India Company’s income has been increasing year by year in the past few years.”
Regarding Su Keyi's statement, Schneider was not nervous because he knew the nature and business objectives of the East India Company very well and could respond to Su Keyi's warning with ease: "The Dutch left their homes tens of thousands of miles away and came to the far East. Their
The purpose is to make a fortune. As long as we can make more money than before, what conditions cannot be negotiated? The next time you send a letter back to Batavia, you can tell Governor Van Diemen that our country will be happy to
Continue to maintain trade relations with the East India Company, but only under the trade framework established under the leadership of our country. If Governor Van Diemen believes that doing so is detrimental to the interests of the East India Company, then we can temporarily terminate the trade relations and restart
Negotiation. All problems can be solved through negotiation, right?”
Although Schneider said this with a smile, the last sentence already contained a threat. I think it was not the relationship between Haihan and the East India Company that could sit together at the beginning. The Dutch were behind the eighteenth
Zhi, and Haihan managed to support Xu Xinsu as the spokesperson. The two sides had a lot of fights near Taiwan Island that year. In addition, Haihan's army also used several offensive and defensive battles over the control of Ambrosia Island in the South China Sea.
The Dutch fought without any temper. It can be said that when the two sides used force to solve problems in the past, it was the Dutch who suffered, and Heihan has maintained an undefeated record so far. Based on this alone, Schneider has the confidence to say this
Enough talk.
Thomas watched this scene with schadenfreude, secretly glad that he had not impulsively contradicted Schneider just now, otherwise Su Keyi would not be the only one who would be unable to step down. He really wished that there would be a stalemate between the two families, so that Portugal could have a chance to compete for what belongs to the Netherlands.
Trade share. If Governor Van Diemen, who is far away in Batavia, is really crazy and wants to suspend trade and renegotiate, then Thomas can guarantee that before the negotiation ends, Portugal will take the Dutch trade in Haihan and Daming.
Grab all your share.
Although Thomas has been in Sanya for a long time and has a certain friendship with Su Keyi because he is a diplomatic envoy, but if there is an opportunity to make trouble for the East India Company, Thomas will not take into account personal friendship and will definitely put the national interests first. Moreover, he
I know that if Su Keyi had such an opportunity, he would definitely make the same choice.
Thomas was even considering whether, after this meeting was over, he should take action again and block the East India Company's road. What the Haihan people needed was a partner who was obedient and willing to follow their arrangements.
And Portugal can do this without feeling as troubled as the Dutch. Even on the road to pursuing independence, Portugal still needs the strong support of Haihan, although it is impossible for Haihan to send troops to Europe to help Portugal fight an independence war.
, but at least it can sell some relatively advanced standard weapons to Portugal, and hit the Spanish from time to time in the Far East and South China Sea to limit the other side's development momentum in this region.
In the Battle of Taipei in 1633, Haihan overthrew the Spanish stronghold on the southeastern coast of the Ming Dynasty. The Sanya spy case in 1634 also destroyed the Spanish intelligence network deployed on Hainan Island. In the Battle of Sanya in 1635, Haihan's navy
The incoming Spanish fleet was defeated at home, and even caused a panic in Manila. Many wealthy people fled by boat to avoid the Haihan army that was said to be coming to kill and retaliate.
Although Haihan had to give up his plan to attack Manila for the sake of the northern layout, the Portuguese already knew that the relationship between the two sides was deep. Even to deal with Spain, the Portuguese in the Far East should unite together.
Standing on Haihan's side. Therefore, in many subsequent affairs, Portugal basically stood by Haihan without any thought and hugged Haihan's thigh tightly, with the purpose of hoping that one day he could encourage Haihan to send troops to Manila and put him to death.
The Spaniards were expelled from the Far East.
Of course, the Dutch actually had the same attitude when it came to dealing with the Spanish. As a country that also launched colonial competition on a global scale, the East India Company was no less afraid of the city of Manila than it was of Haihan. This is
The two countries not only fought fiercely on the European battlefield, but also fought against each other in the global battle for colonies. Moreover, the Dutch knew very well that the conflict of interests with the Spanish was very sharp, unlike the East India Company and Haihan.
The relationship between them can also be improved through negotiation and trade cooperation. Unless the final victory is determined on the European battlefield, overseas institutions such as the East India Company will never be able to maintain peace with the Spanish.
However, the war launched by the Matalan Kingdom against the city of Batavia in 1632 greatly damaged the strength of the East India Company, so that in the following years it could only focus its main energy on rebuilding the city of Batavia.
There was no time to deal with the Spanish. If it weren't for the existence of Haihan, the Spanish fleet might have sailed south from Manila without any scruples, heading straight for Batavia to complete the final blow to defeat the East India Company.
Chapter completed!