Chapter 2404

Qian Tiandun was silent for a long time after listening to Shang Qing's words. Shang Qing was not in a hurry to urge him to respond. This time when he came to Jinzhou to negotiate, what he was most worried about was that the conditions he proposed were rejected by the other party, leaving no room for negotiation.

Not staying, but now Qian Tiandun has not responded to him immediately, which means that the other party should be considering the conditions proposed by him.

As Shang Qing said, everyone knows that Haihan attaches great importance to trade development. If there are really huge benefits to be gained, then some things are not without the possibility of compromise. Although Haihan's military deployment and combat operations in the north in recent years have also been

Some gains have been made, such as the population plundered from the Manchu-occupied areas and industrial cooperation in Korea, but compared with Haihan's military expenditure in the north, these gains are still in a serious state of making ends meet. When will the north be allowed to rule?

Balancing the district's revenue and expenditure, or even achieving profitability, has always been one of Haihan's development goals in this area.

Haihan has three control areas in the north: Jinzhou, Liaodong, Fushan County, Shandong, and Datong River Base in North Korea. Currently, only Fushan County's operating conditions are relatively ideal, with both the stable output of the Fushan Copper Mine and the growing trade.

scale, it has sustained profitability. However, the war in Shandong has caused local trade activities to almost completely stagnate. It will take at least a year and a half before it can return to the pre-war level.

Although the prospects for many industries jointly operated by the two countries in the lower reaches of the Datong River are promising, only some of the projects have been put into operation at present, and many projects are still in the early construction stage. It will take time to recover the investment, and profits cannot be used to subsidize it in the short term.

The cost of the Haihan Army's long-term stationing in the local area. Of course, if North Korea had not borne part of the military stationing expenses, I am afraid that Haihan would have been forced by economic pressure to withdraw the main force such as the special operations group to Jinzhou.

The situation in the Jinzhou area is relatively more difficult, because this area is in a state of war all year round, and almost all the local population and resources are used to prepare for war. The related industries also directly or indirectly serve the garrison, so it is not connected with the outside world.

There are not many normal trade activities, and naturally there is not much revenue. Chen Yixin also thought of various methods when he was in charge of Jinzhou, but the local situation is not so easy to change, unless he one day escapes from the war zone.

Only by positioning the local area can it be possible to truly settle down and operate some decent industries.

But even if Jinzhou enters a state of armistice, it will be difficult to operate trade with the Ming Dynasty Bohai Bay and North Korea based on local conditions. The scale is difficult to reach an ideal level. Because Jinzhou is small, has limited resources, and the scale of its industry is also limited.

There are not many high-value goods that can be sold locally, and the limited population cannot provide high purchasing power. If we really want to turn Jinzhou into a trading port, there is only one feasible way, and that is to open a commercial channel to the north.

There are too many resources in the Liaodong region that Haihan is interested in, and after years of plundering foreign countries, the Manchu Qing Dynasty also has sufficient funds to purchase various commodities from Haihan. Compared with the poor Korea and the northern border areas of Ming Dynasty,

The Manchu Qing's economic situation was more suitable to serve as Haihan's trade partner. Even if Qian Tiandun had no favorable impression of the Manchu Qing, he had to admit this.

However, before that, due to various considerations, Haihan did not regard the Manchus as a candidate trade partner, and did not even have the idea of ​​​​trading through middlemen. He was only thinking about how to use military strikes to hold back the Manchus.

The pace of marching south to invade the Ming Dynasty and North Korea. Neither the Executive Committee nor the military believed that the Manchus and Qing Dynasties would put aside their grievances over the past few years and take the initiative to bow to their own side and seek reconciliation.

But the solution proposed by Shang Qing this time does provide Haihan with a new direction to deal with the situation in Northeast Asia. If Haihan relies on Jinzhou to establish trade relations with the Manchus, then

This means that Haihan has completely opened up the maritime trade route from the South China Sea to Liaodong, and the east coastline of the Asian continent has basically been included in Haihan's trade scope.

This is of great significance to Haihan, which has always used maritime trade as its main means of expansion. As the only force that has opened up this entire trade route, in the future, no matter mainland countries such as Ming Dynasty and Annan, they will still be equally good at operating maritime trade.

Western counterparts can only enjoy the dividends brought by the development of maritime trade by actively or passively becoming a member of the Haihan transnational trade system.

Of course, other participants can only follow behind to drink soup and gnaw bones. The real meat eaters must be Haihan who established this international trading system. Even if Qian Tiandun is not an expert in economics, he can basically eat the meat.

It can be determined that the trade potential of the Manchu Qing Dynasty is at least higher than that of North Korea, and the benefits it can bring to the entire trade system are far beyond North Korea. It is still difficult for Haihan to directly ignore it.

The general decision-making power is naturally controlled by the Executive Committee. Although Qian Tiandun is a senior general of the Haihan Army, he also feels that this matter cannot be decided by himself. However, there are some things that he must confirm right now.

, otherwise there would be no need to consider subsequent development.

"I want to know whether the content related to trade is your personal idea or the idea of ​​your prince? Please tell me carefully. If there are any lies, there is no need to mention the negotiation!" Qian Tiandun thought.

After a long time, I finally asked Shang Qing a question.

Shang Qing did not dare to be negligent and quickly responded cautiously: "General Qian, this is not a villain's nonsense, nor is it my prince's idea, but the emperor's intention."

Shang Qing carried Huang Taiji out, and Qian Tiandun naturally no longer doubted the reliability of his proposal. If it was Shang Qing's personal idea, then Qian Tiandun wouldn't have to waste time with him. If it was

Qian Tiandun would not let go of what Shang Kexi meant. After all, Shang Kexi was just a military general who defected to the Manchu Qing Dynasty. Even if he was made king by Huang Taiji, he would not have much influence in the Manchu Qing court.

No matter how good the conditions are, it will probably be in vain in the end.

But if this was the intention of Emperor Huang Taiji of the Qing Dynasty, Qian Tiandun could not take it lightly. If done properly, this might be a deal that was extremely beneficial to Haihan.

Qian Tiandun continued to ask: "What does the emperor of your country want?"

Shang Qing came twice and bumped into big and small nails many times. Finally, he heard the other party take the initiative to ask about his own requirements. He immediately responded: "General, I said it at the beginning. Our country's requirements are really true."

It is very simple, that is, a comprehensive ceasefire with your country. Of course, the agreement to cease the war is not only in Jinzhou, but also includes other countries."

The frequency of battles between Haihan and Manchu in Jinzhou has actually been much lower than in the past few years. Now there are actually few large-scale armed conflicts in a year. The armies of both countries have built extremely strong fortresses near the Jinzhou Isthmus.

Both sides know that they have to pay an extremely heavy price to advance the front. However, it is not cost-effective for both countries to continue to use military means to repeatedly compete for control of this area.

So I also maintained restraint in a tacit understanding.

The heavy damage caused to the Manchu Qing Dynasty by Haihan's dispatch of troops to North Korea the year before last also made Huang Taiji and other senior Manchu officials realize that Haihan might send troops to help the targets of his crusade. This means that no matter whether they attack North Korea or the Ming Dynasty in the future, they may

It encountered the evil star of the Haihan Army in its territory. So this year, after the Qing army went south to Jinan Prefecture in Shandong Province, although it still had the remaining strength to launch an offensive in the direction of the Shandong Peninsula, in order to avoid running into the scope of activities of the Haihan Army, the Qing army

Rushing to the western side of Laizhou Prefecture, they were still hundreds of miles away from Fushan County, so they withdrew their troops early.

Therefore, in Huang Taiji's plan, the armistice peace talks with Haihan could not limit the armistice area to Jinzhou, but must include the surrounding countries of the Manchu Qing Dynasty to avoid a situation similar to what happened on the Korean battlefield.

When Qian Tiandun heard this, he naturally understood what the other party was trying to do. He couldn't help but laugh and said: "In this way, a complete ceasefire and the opening of trade are actually more beneficial to your country and cheaper.

Let your country take it!"

Shang Qing defended: "General, this is a move that is beneficial to both our countries, no matter how much it is! Your country can save a lot of military expenses, reduce casualties, and at the same time open up trade routes and increase revenue. This can

These are all visible benefits!”

Qian Tiandun shook his head and said: "I think the conditions you proposed are unfair. If we cease fire with your country, we will have to give up two allies for this. Your Excellency believes that the benefits your country can bring to our country can exceed those of the Ming Dynasty."

With North Korea?”

Qian Tiandun made his words clear directly, not wanting the other party's wishful thinking to succeed. Shang Qing's statement was completely a play on words. The Manchu and Qing Dynasties only made an armistice with Haihan, but did not mention an armistice with Ming and North Korea. That was obvious.

The purpose is to make Haihan give up providing military assistance to these two countries. When the Manchu and Qing Dynasties send troops to attack these two countries, they will no longer have to worry about Haihan sending troops to interfere.

Shang Qing knew that Qian Tiandun had seen through his trick, so he apologized and said with a smile: "General, don't worry, these conditions can be discussed later! At least we have a preliminary consensus. A truce and trade will be beneficial to both sides. General

You wouldn’t object to this, would you?”

Seeing that Qian Tiandun did not agree with his statement, Shang Qing quickly retreated half a step and brought the topic back to the previous place where Qian Tiandun's attitude had relaxed, in order to preserve the possibility of continuing the conversation.

Qian Tiandun waved his hand and said: "It's still early to reach a consensus, you don't need to be so excited. Regarding what you said, I want to think about it carefully. You can stay in Jinzhou and wait for the news. If you are not worried, you can first

Go back and come back to Jinzhou in a while to hear the answer."

Qian Tiandun has now understood the other party's intentions, and also knows that the other party's status is limited and has no power to make a decision on the armistice and peace talks, so he is not in the mood to continue to entangle with the other party.

Of course, he himself had to report the matter to the Sanya Executive Committee first. After all, this matter was extremely involved. It would not only affect Haihan's long-term planning in Northeast Asia, but also may affect the development of this region.

With the international situation and Haihan's diplomatic relations having an impact, Qian Tiandun did not dare to make the decision rashly, and it was safer to let the executive committee make the decision.

It was not easy for Shang Qing to come to Jinzhou, and he was worried that there were other variables on Qian Tiandun's side, so he decided to stay in Jinzhou to wait for Haihan's official reply, and only sent one of his followers back to the north to report the progress. Qian

Tiandun didn't force himself, so he asked people to arrange food and lodging for Shang Qing, allowing him to temporarily stay near the Nanguanling camp.

After sending Shang Qing away, Qian Tiandun calmed down and wrote a telegram, stating the conditions and requirements proposed by Shang Qing this time, adding some of his own opinions, and then sent the telegram in person.

Because Wang Tom is now also a member of the Executive Committee, Qian Tiandun's message was made in duplicate, one of which was sent to the Datong River Base, so that if the Executive Committee needs to vote to decide whether to start armistice peace talks with the Manchus,

Then Tom Wang can also have enough time to think about it.

Judging from past experience, the executive committee will inevitably need to hold a meeting to discuss after receiving the telegram, and the discussion time required for such a major decision may last for several days, and it will be at least three to five days before receiving a reply.

Therefore, Qian Tiandun still has plenty of time to prepare for subsequent negotiations. In his opinion, the Executive Committee is likely to take this opportunity to contact the Manchus and seek the possibility of obtaining more benefits.

The Manchu and Qing Dynasties hoped to make Haihan give up the Ming Dynasty and North Korea through armistice and peace talks. Why couldn't Haihan use this opportunity to make some demands on the Ming Dynasty and North Korea in order to maintain the current alliance relationship. Especially since it has always been

If the Ming Dynasty, which has many restrictive measures against Haihan, realizes that Haihan may give up its military restraint on the Qing Dynasty, it may change its current attitude towards Haihan.

In fact, after Shang Qing visited Chen Yixin in Jinzhou last time, Chen Yixin had already spread the news to Yue Yongshou, the Ming envoy in Jinzhou, and made it clear to him that Ming Dynasty should provide military subsidies to Haihan's garrison in Jinzhou. But at that time

Shang Qing quickly left Jinzhou and went back after being disappointed, so it's hard to say how effective this warning was. Perhaps the Ming court would not regard this news as a substantial threat. After all, Manchu

The Qing Dynasty took the initiative to propose an armistice and peace talks, which seemed a bit outrageous.

Of course Qian Tiandun also knew that there were Ming envoys stationed locally, and he had no intention of keeping the news of Shang Qing's visit to Jinzhou a secret, so only two hours after Shang Qing checked into the official hotel in Nanguanling,

The Ming Dynasty envoy Yue Yongshou learned the news.

If there is anything more terrifying than the Qing army's invasion of the Ming Dynasty, it is probably the collusion between the Manchu and Qing Dynasties and the Haihan. If either of these two countries uses force, the Ming Dynasty will suffer a lot. If they join forces, the consequences will be

It was really unimaginable. Naturally, Yue Yongshou couldn't sit still when he heard the news, and hurriedly asked to see Qian Tiandun to get more detailed information.
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