The video ends here, and the interrogator terminates the interrogation. Apparently, he also realizes that the information he has received currently exceeds his authority.

As the screen returned to darkness, Ye Zhou turned to Chen Hao and asked:

"So, do you think his philosophy...makes sense?"

Chen Hao shook his head and replied:

"I don't think he makes sense, but objectively speaking, we did find a certain feasibility in his concept - reducing unnecessary energy consumption, concentrating energy in key areas, and reducing the overall

Isn’t it reasonable to do this to increase the energy level and gain more time?”

"The problem is that they have gone too extreme. They are opposed to all new creative behaviors and any continued development of productivity - they feel that all human productivity now is enough to complete the analysis of adjacent dimension problems.

"

Ye Zhou smiled and said:

"Okay, I don't want to discuss too macro issues, but you have to answer me first, how do you plan to convince our billions of people to give up their current living standards?"

"----No, you don't have to say it that loudly. How do you plan to convince your daughter not to go see the latest little brother?"

Chen Hao frowned slightly and replied:

"It can be through coercive means, laws, policies, etc."

"Do you think it will be effective? You don't know what the outcome of Prohibition will be, right?"

"...So you think this is not feasible?"

"No, this is not impossible, this is pure idealism."

Having said this, Ye Zhou picked up the tea cup and took a sip of the cold tea, and then said:

"I finally see it clearly. These people are not really anti-humanists, they are just a bunch of extremists. To put it bluntly, what they are doing is trying to translate the theory on paper into reality."

"Did you know that there is a concept in physics called 'spherical chicken in a vacuum'? These people want to bring the 'vacuum spherical chicken' from sociology into reality. Do you think this is possible?"

"The social picture they constructed is perfect, self-consistent, and even efficient in the context of doomsday. But the problem is that reality is not a vacuum, and chickens are not spherical!"

"Of course, we can also vacuum reality, or we can cultivate chickens into spherical shapes, but will the cost of doing so be lower than the Tongtian River project and the Fenghuo project?"

"It's impossible... Even in the field of sociology, energy is conserved. What's more, if we want to realize the social picture they say, we will also face the risk of a complete collapse of the social order. If it really happens

In that case, we don’t need the neighboring dimension to invade, we can kill ourselves.”

"Besides, what Chen Wu said is completely contradictory. On the one hand, he said that the Renaissance was the foundation of the scientific revolution, but on the other hand, he asked humans to give up entertainment activities, culture and artistic enjoyment. What kind of authentic double standard dog is this?

?”

After listening to Ye Zhou's explanation, Chen Hao breathed a long sigh of relief and then said:

"So what you're saying is that their ideas have no merit?"

"Yes, of course. To put it bluntly, isn't the so-called pastoral pastoral the ultimate form of planned economy? The core is not the optimal allocation of resources."

"----Resource optimization allocation, aren't we doing it now? Otherwise, where will the resources for the Tongtianhe project come from?"

Chen Hao nodded slightly and replied:

"Okay... I probably understand it, but to be honest, their theory is still very confusing."

"If you accept one of their views at the beginning, their other views will begin to influence you subtly, and eventually you will accept them all - this is the so-called threshold effect, right?"

"That's right."

"In that case, we have to think of a way to refute their views. We have to seize the high ground of public opinion, otherwise many people will be fooled by their trap. Do you have any ideas?"

After hearing Chen Hao's words, Ye Zhou pondered for a moment and said:

"I don't think so. In fact, as long as the truth about their so-called 'pastoral' is exposed in propaganda, most ordinary people will spontaneously stand against them. As for those who believe in their theories, we don't care.

No matter how you promote it, it will be useless.”

"They often think that they are the elite of society and believe that they should naturally enjoy more resources and bear heavier responsibilities. To put it bluntly, they have an outdated so-called aristocratic spirit from the West."

"In their eyes, ordinary people are the property of their fiefdom. They want to save the world, not to save mankind, but to save themselves."

"If there is a reliable opportunity - for example, if interstellar navigation becomes possible, they will immediately turn into escapeists without hesitation."

"So, what we have to do is not win over this group of people, but attack them."

"Escapeism and castrationism are one of the most dangerous ideological trends in the adjacent dimension crisis. Fortunately, if we discovered it early and launched a crackdown immediately, it would still be too late."

After hearing Ye Zhou's words, Chen Hao's expression became a little solemn.

"Do you think things have reached this point?"

"It's just a precautionary measure. Their influence is still limited now, but they can already reach out to key national projects. If they are allowed to develop, what do you think will happen?"

"As I said, these people are originally a group that adheres to elitism. Their social status is not low. Their voice and influence are naturally higher than that of other ordinary people. They are reflected in all aspects of social economy.

"

"Maybe they are still idealists now, but if they continue to develop, when they find that they can use idealism to gain benefits, everything will change."

"How to say?"

Chen Hao asked.

Ye Zhou frowned and replied:

"I have a story, which may be able to better explain all the issues related to the Pastoral Organization from a relatively small entry point, and explain why we must suppress it to death at the very beginning of its emergence."

"Tell me and listen."

Ye Zhou refilled his cup with tea and then said:

"Suppose, now we have such a village, this village is called... let's call it Longlong Village."

"Longlong Village has been home to farmers who make a living from farming and animal husbandry for generations. After generations of hard work, their lives have gradually become richer. Various houses have been built, and fresh vegetables and fruits are constantly produced in the land.

The grassland is full of well-fed and well-fed cattle and sheep.”

"Every weekend, people in the village organize dances and dinners. There are also many entertainment activities on weekdays. Everyone's life is rich and enjoyable."

"Suddenly one day, the prophet in the village brought a message: in the not too distant future, a giant dragon from the nearby mountains will attack Longlong Village, with the purpose of completely destroying Longlong Village and killing all the villagers."

"This news caused the villagers to panic - you know, the dragon is very scary. With the skills of the villagers at the time, they had no way to fight against the dragon."

"However, these villagers cannot give up the land they have lived on for generations, because large-scale relocation means death."

"So, these villagers began to make various preparations, such as building city walls, hoarding fuel, growing food to prepare for long-term battles, etc."

"In short, everyone is trying hard to do their best to defeat the dragon under limited conditions."

"The villagers also actively offered suggestions and advice. Among them, there was one strategy that quickly gained the approval of many people."

"The proponent of this strategy said that the reason why the dragon wanted to attack the village was actually because the development of the villagers had posed a threat to its survival. Therefore, what the villagers should do was to hide their power and let

The dragon let down its guard, then secretly made stronger weapons, unexpectedly inflicting heavy damage on the dragon."

"This plan is called the 'Pastoral Plan'. It seems very reasonable, but the question is, how to hide the strength?"

"The first thing to do is to destroy most of the farmland and eliminate most of the livestock, leaving only basic food rations that are enough for everyone to live."

"Secondly, the village is not allowed to organize dances and entertainment activities anymore, because these activities will consume additional resources."

"In the end, even lighting lights at night was prohibited, because too bright lights showed the prosperity of the village and could easily attract the attention of the dragon."

“Such a policy naturally caused dissatisfaction among most people, but the leader always believed that he was right, so when the policy could not be implemented and the village committee stood up to oppose it, he used various tough methods to implement it.

His strategy."

"For example, setting fires in farmland, attacking and demolishing dance halls, adding water to lamp oil sold on the market... Such sabotage actions have indeed achieved good results, but at the same time, the execution of the leaders

The leaders suddenly found that the power in their hands was expanding rapidly."

"As mentioned before, they want to secretly make stronger weapons. Let's call this weapon a crossbow."

"Making weapons requires manpower and resources, and obviously, those involved in the manufacturing of urban crossbows will receive more resources."

"They have abundant food, bright lights, and even occasional dance parties to help them relieve stress...Obviously, any villager wants to join this work, but who can really

join in?"

"From the perspective of the idealist who is the leader of the Pastoral Project, he certainly hopes that the people who join the project are truly talented people, but he ignores the fact that in this village, the contradiction between resources and needs has developed to the point where

The degree of irreconcilability.”

"Even the executors of the Pastoral Plan cannot obtain enough resources to satisfy their desires, so what will they do?"

"The answer is obvious. They will rent out their rights in exchange for the few resources."

"Want to join the Urban Crossbow Project? It's very simple. You can exchange it for bacon. Don't have bacon? Okay, you can exchange it for your daughter. What? You said you don't want to continue the Pastoral Project? That's not possible, the privileged class has already

Once it's formed, how can I let you destroy it casually?"

"At this point, the village has basically fallen into chaos, and murders and arson are rampant everywhere. The village committee of Longlong Village is no longer able to fight against the Pastoral Organization, because under their destruction, most of the resources of the entire society have been gathered

It’s in their hands.”

"In the end, the village committee disappeared, and the Pastoral Organization established a new village committee. They celebrated the arrival of a new era and their victory, but everyone forgot that soon the dragon would come to kill them.

Already."
To be continued...