Zhu Biao brought Li Jie to Lao Zhu's warm pavilion, but found that there were many ministers standing here, such as the Secretary of Zhan Hui and Zhan. This person was deeply trusted by Lao Zhu. Although there was no prime minister in the Ming Dynasty, he had already become the leader of all officials.

"Greetings to the prince, the prince consort!" Zhan Hui and others hurried forward and bowed when they saw Zhu Biao.

"No need to be polite. Father, don't you even see you?" Zhu Biao immediately guessed what was going on when he saw these people. Zhan Hui and others must be like him, and they all opposed the move of wealthy families in the world to Beijing.

"Yes, we originally wanted to persuade Your Majesty to think twice. After all, the world is now determined. If so many wealthy families are rashly moved to Beijing, these people will have a great influence in the local area and can help the government stabilize the local area. Now, rashly moving away may cause chaos in the local area!" At this time, another minister also said with a heartache.

As soon as the other party finished speaking, he saw another minister and continued, "We just advised His Majesty for a few words, but unexpectedly, His Majesty was furious and drove us out. Now we are not leaving, nor are we not leaving. I really don't know what to do!"

"Everyone, be careful. Now that the palace is down, I will definitely be able to persuade Your Majesty!" Finally, Zhan Hui came forward to stop the ministers who wanted to complain to Zhu Biao, and then bowed to Zhu Biao, "Your Highness, we really can't persuade Your Majesty. Now, only you and the prince-consort can come forward, maybe your Majesty can change your mind!"

"Please make the decision for us!" The other ministers followed Zhan Hui and saluted Zhu Biao.

In the face of the requests of the ministers, Zhu Biao also comforted him kindly, but Li Jie later sneered in his heart. Zhu Biao wanted to stop Lao Zhu, probably because of the national considerations, but these ministers may not be the case, because as far as he knew, these ministers were mostly from local wealthy families, and their families must be the targets of their first migration, so they probably only know how much selfish the people have in their words.

Of course, the above words were just thought to Li Jie. He would definitely not say them. Instead, he was like Zhu Biao, comforting the ministers, and then the two walked into the warm pavilion together.

When Li Jie and Zhu Biao entered the warmer hall, they saw Lao Zhu who was reviewing the memorial at first sight. When Lao Zhu heard their footsteps, he said without even raising his head, "What, do you want to persuade me to take back my life?"

"This..." Zhu Biao suddenly showed a hesitant look when he heard this. He originally wanted to persuade him directly, but after chatting with Li Jie just now, Li Jie seemed to have a better solution, so he didn't know what to say now, so he turned his head and looked at Li Jie.

Li Jie also immediately understood and saw him step forward and saluted Lao Zhu and said, "Your Majesty, I am not here to persuade Your Majesty, but I want to discuss the gains and losses of the governance of all dynasties with Your Majesty!"

"Oh?" Old Zhu finally stopped the pen in his hand when he heard this, then raised his head and looked at Li Jie in surprise and asked, "What are the gains and losses do you want to discuss?"

"Land annexation!" Li Jieyan expressed his meaning concisely and directly.

When Lao Zhu heard these four words, his eyes were fixed, and he immediately sat upright and said, "Tell me in detail!"

"The rise and fall of dynasties has been studied in history, and many people have also come to a conclusion that the demise of all dynasties is almost all related to land annexation. This seems to be an inevitable problem in every dynasty. Although many people want to start solving it, now it seems that no one has succeeded!" Li Jie said with a serious expression.

As soon as Li Jie said the last sentence, Lao Zhu also looked dark. Although he was conceited, he did not think that he was the smartest man from ancient times to the present. Even among emperors, the achievements of Emperor Wu and Emperor Tang of Han were no worse than him. These people must have considered the issue of land annexation. However, whether it was the strong Han Dynasty or the prosperous Tang Dynasty, they all disappeared in the dust of history. Can his Ming Dynasty really get rid of this law?

"Isn't anyone really successful?" Lao Zhu asked unwillingly, although he knew the answer should be no.

"There are indeed no successful people, but there is a dynasty that almost succeeds!" Li Jie said again with a smile.

"Which dynasty?" Old Zhu couldn't help but lean out and asked excitedly when he heard this. If the problem of land annexation could be solved, why would he have to move the rich families in the world to the capital under the pressure from the court? Don't he know that doing so will cause local turmoil?

"The Song Dynasty, to be precise, the Northern Song Dynasty!" Li Jie replied with a smile again.

"Northern Song?" Old Zhu showed a look of shock. In fact, among all dynasties, he did not like the Song Dynasty very much. The main reason was that the Song Dynasty was too weak. Not only could not resist the Jin and Liao, but even the small Western Xia capital could not be defeated. In the end, it was destroyed by the Mongols, causing the Central Plains to fall into foreign races for nearly a hundred years, so he even despised the Song Dynasty.

"Your Majesty, when Zhao Taizu was not upright in the country, he was relatively relaxed in his management of the country. Even from the beginning, the Song Dynasty did not prohibit land annexation, but instead relaxed some restrictions on land, resulting in the people gradually concentrated in the hands of a few people. Most of them did not have their own land and could only become tenants..."

"I know all of these, so the national strength of the Song Dynasty was so weak, and it would be no longer unfair to be destroyed by others in the end!" Lao Zhu waved his hand and interrupted Li Jie.

"Your Majesty, the national strength of the Song Dynasty is actually not weak. The only weak is their military. In fact, the Song Dynasty is very rich, so they are more willing to use money to solve problems. For example, giving Liao monies is a bit humiliating, but the money given is just a drop in the bucket for the Song Dynasty. In addition, there are refugees, and they also organize refugees into wing troops to avoid greater chaos. These require strong financial resources to solve, and financial resources are also the main component of national strength!"

Li Jie paused and then said: "In addition, although the Song Dynasty did not prohibit land annexation, the domestic environment was relatively stable. Although there were incidents like Fang La, it did not shake the rule of the Song Dynasty. Therefore, the impact of land annexation on the Song Dynasty was not as serious as other dynasties. This is a counterexample. The root of the turmoil at the end of the Yuan Dynasty was land annexation, which caused most people to survive, so there were so many opposition forces!"

"This statement is quite new, but when you think about it carefully, it seems that it is true!" Lao Zhu nodded after hearing this.

Lao Zhu experienced the turmoil at the end of the Yuan Dynasty, especially when he traveled around in his early years. He was indeed full of refugees everywhere. Although there were large tracts of land, they all belonged to those big landlords. Even when his parents died, he did not have a place to bury his parents. This shows the seriousness of land annexation at that time.

"Wait a minute, I have a question. Why was the Song Dynasty so rich?" Zhu Biao suddenly interrupted. He originally wanted to see how Li Jie would convince his father, but he didn't expect that as he listened, he was fascinated. At this time, he also threw away his previous ideas and began to participate in the discussion.

"The reason why the Song Dynasty was rich was not only the salt and iron typified, but the most important thing was to relax restrictions on industry and commerce, which made the Song Dynasty extremely developed. In this way, landless farmers could enter industry and commerce, and they could make money even if they were not good. Even if they became refugees, they would be incorporated into the wing army by the government. As long as they had food, ordinary people would not think of rebellion, and naturally they would not pose a threat to the court." Li Jie explained again.

"Can the Song Dynasty be so rich by just opening up industry and commerce?" Old Zhu asked with a frown.

Lao Zhu was born as a poor peasant. He had a natural resistance to business and was even more despised by merchants. Therefore, he formulated so many laws against merchants, and even stipulated that merchants could not even wear silk because he felt that merchants were not engaged in production and only knew how to buy things and sell things. He deceived the previous family and the next family, and was completely a group of borers.

"Of course not. After the industry and commerce are liberalized, taxes are still needed to be imposed on their court. Only by levying the tax can the country have money. The Song Dynasty did a very good job in this regard, so their financial resources will be so strong!" Li Jie explained again.

"Why did the Song Dynasty finally perish?" Lao Zhu asked a key question at this time. Since the Song Dynasty was so rich and almost solved the problem of land annexation, it still could not escape the fate of perishment in the end. If Li Jie could not answer this question, then what he said before was useless.

"The reason why the Song Dynasty perished was many reasons. The main reason was that they suppressed the military, or suppressed the military too much, which led to the status of the generals and soldiers being very low and their morale was also very low. Even if their equipment was extremely well-equipped, the army was not in a fight, so they were naturally not rivals to the Jin, Liao, or even the Xixia people!"

Li Jie paused for a moment before continuing: "Of course the above is just one of the main reasons. In addition, the Song Dynasty itself had many other problems, but among these problems, the problems caused by land annexation were not the main reasons for their destruction of the country, so I thought I could take the essence and remove the dross!"

"What do you mean is that by lifting restrictions on industry and commerce, we can alleviate the problems caused by land annexation?" Lao Zhu pondered for a moment before saying again.

"Your Majesty is wise, I mean that this is what I mean. In fact, I also have a ready-made example in the Ming Dynasty. After the sea ban was gradually relaxed, industry and commerce in coastal areas also flourished. Compared with agriculture, industry and commerce make money faster, and it is not as tiring as agriculture. Therefore, in recent years, the prefectures in coastal areas have reported that local people are unwilling to return to their hometowns to farm in Ningxia, and land prices have been falling. No one is willing to buy them at all, and naturally there will be no land annexation." Li Jie gave an example again.
Chapter completed!