Ren Ke really wanted to bring the debate back to the direction of "My ancestors talked about Yao, Shun, Yu, Tang, Wen and Wu."

So he said, "Even if your reason is reasonable, perhaps a long-term burial can really lead to a decrease in the population, but this is the way of Yao, Shun, Yu, Tang, Wen and Wu! Can you understand what the Holy King does for everything?"

"A dull person sees smart people drying reeds in summer, and only in winter can he know that the house is to be repaired. How can you know what the Holy King does and understand in the future? If you change it at will, you may be the same as a dull person: you think that summer is hot and you can enjoy the cool air, and you should not dry the reeds."

"However, by the time you understand it, it's too late. So, unless you can explain the truth behind everything the Saint King did, I can't accept your truth."

As soon as Ren Ke finished speaking, a burst of laughter came from the side.

He immediately felt that what he said seemed to be a problem. As expected, Shi laughed and said, "First, are we discussing the principle of 'Festival and burial' by Yao, Shun, Yu and Tang? Or are we discussing whether 'Full burial and long-term funeral' will make people feel depressed?"

"If you want to discuss whether 'Festival and Funeral' is the reason for Yao, Shun, Yu and Tang, then please admit defeat on this issue. We, the Mo family, will have someone to discuss this new issue with you."

"I'm arguing with you about whether this cow is a black cow or a white cow, but you argue with me that horses run faster than cows...this is ridiculous."

After saying that, Bian Fifty-four stood up and bowed and said, "Mo Bian, please argue with you about the way of the Holy King."

Ren Ke didn't answer, thinking that I could not support the youngest senior figure in Mozhe, so why should I humiliate myself?

I originally thought that this was a person who could deal with it, but I didn't expect that this person also obtained the essence of Mohist debate.

While he was still thinking about the loopholes in what Shi said just now, Shi seized the opportunity to take advantage of the opportunity he was still thinking but had not yet found, disrupted his rhythm and said loudly: "Secondly, Yao, Shun, Yu and Tang, wasn't it for the benefit of the world? In the past, Youchao clan taught people to build houses in order to avoid wild animals. So, do those who want to be saints must build houses? Or can't those who don't build houses be called saints?"

"In the past, Emperor Shun used ploughs to cultivate. Can people nowadays use new farm tools instead of using ploughs to farms and do not follow the way of the Holy King?"

"Everything that the Holy King does is to benefit the world. Just as you eat to avoid starving to death, you can eat rice, millet, or wheat. If you have wheat but don't have rice, you say that the Holy King only eats rice, so if you starve to death, then the Holy King will only think you are stupid, instead of appreciating you for following the way of the Holy King."

"It is ridiculous to abandon the benefit of the world and pursue the Holy King's behavior, just like abandoning jewelry and leaving behind a jewelry box."

"There are bird fields in Yue. In ancient times, dull people saw birds flying, and they only wanted to catch them with ropes; and when Dayu saw birds flying, they would think of using birds to weed the fields. Nowadays, dull people also knew how to weed the fields because of Dayu's education. But if Dayu was still there, would they still choose to weed the fields?"

"On the contrary, if it is still there, Dayu would choose to use ropes to capture rice, instead planting two seasons of rice to prevent being eaten by birds. Could it be that Dayu used ropes to capture birds, Dayu became dull?"

"I heard a story like this. The Chu man crossed the river with his sword. The sword fell into the water. He made a mark on the boat. Everyone asked him why he didn't go to fish it. He said that the sword fell from the mark. As long as he arrived at the shore and was fished under the mark, he could. Aren't people who are pursuing the original rules and think that it cannot be changed as the Chu man?"

The Chu envoy on the side was a little reluctant to listen to this. At this time, the Chu State was extremely powerful, and it was not the time when he claimed that the barbarians were not convinced by Zhou. Therefore, few people in the world made jokes about Chu State.

The joke that I told about carving a boat and asking for a sword was originally a joke that only appeared after Chu was dying or was dead. In terms of now... the jokes were usually mainly based on Song and Wei, the weak countries of the country, so as not to be surprised by friendly countries.

However, the Chu envoy was very satisfied with the attitude of Mozhe towards the Wei people, which at least proved that the Jiahe incident was not the one that Mozhe took the initiative to contact the Wei people.

In this way, perhaps the Wei people's ideas are similar to those of theirs.

The Chu envoy secretly felt that he was lucky, and he also felt that the King of Chu had a good vision. Otherwise, the Wei people would be successful, and they were afraid that the situation would be very bad in the future.

The King of Chu said that Qu Wuchen taught the chariots to fight in Wu and Wu Zixu built Gusu. Originally, the Chu envoy might not care, but now in Peixian, he believes that the King of Chu has a sharp and unique vision, and it is true.

Seeing that the Wei envoy seemed to be convinced by this young Mo man, the Chu envoy also understood that the concerns of Mo man collectively taking office in a country could be dispelled. The rest was to take the Mo man as much as possible based on the fact that it was impossible for Mo man to take office in a country as a matter of time, and to get as many things as possible to benefit the Chu people.

The Mozhe in the field appreciated Shi's performance, and Mozi nodded frequently. It was clear that Shi's statement was exactly in line with Mozhe's usual principles, but... on the question of where the truth came from, Mozi could obviously perceive the corrections made by Shi.

The man of Mo is both reasonable and respects ghosts and gods, so a strange phenomenon often occurs: after explaining the truth, he will make up a story and say that the Holy King does this, and ghosts and gods also like this.

At this time, the Holy King is the best standard in the world, and any theory must find a way to lean towards the Holy King.

But when talking about these things, we always avoid the Holy King how to do it, but only focus on one thing: the Holy King is for the benefit of the world.

As for the method, it is not easy for generations to be verified. As long as you can benefit the world, it is the practice of the Saint King. On the other hand, whether you can benefit the world is actually the only and the best standard.

When you have time, make up a story about the Holy King. In the era of knowledge monopoly, all the knowledgeable people in a hundred schools of thought are making up - a simple republic of the Chinese people has four or five statements, all relying on their own theory.

Basically, the various schools of thought were among the earliest "historical inventors", who relied on inventing history to prove their own theories.

Because in such a changing era, it is difficult to use the old history directly before discovering the hidden laws in it, so we have to fabricate some ancient and unexplained stories to prove our rationality.

And the right way is to skip the step of compiling history and use the tampered "nature ambition" and benefiting the world as the highest standard.

Whether it can benefit the world has nothing to do with whether the Holy King has done it, but only with the inferred results.

This is the biggest difference from the other Mo people when debating with others, and this is also an important reason why Mozi chose to be the radical of Xuanyi.

The opponent can refute that the Holy King has not done this, but cannot refute that the Holy King is not for the benefit of the world. It seems that it is difficult to defeat the world according to the principles of the Ink Master and the Suitable Combination.

Ren Ke is now the first time he has experienced this Mohist debate method after the fusion. He is extremely uncomfortable and it is extremely difficult to refute with his urgent wisdom.

It feels like facing a mountain, trying to make the mountain collapse with your own urgent wisdom. However, this mountain seems to be the world where "the world is called the universe, and the journey between ancient and modern times is called the universe". It is simple and vulgar and heavy and unbearable.

On this mountain, people need to eat if they don’t starve to death, and people need their parents to be born, etc. It is as simple as the world’s principles.

When he saw Ren Ke was still pondering, he immediately continued his previous discussion: "From this point, the existing rules of the world that are already in the world are harmful to the world, at least in terms of population growth. So can the people be rich and political affairs be governed?"

"A long-lasting burial was lost in the homes of princes and princes who had funerals. The coffin must be multi-layered, the burial must be deep, the clothes of the deceased must be large, the embroidery must be rich, and the tomb must be tall. When the princes died, the wealth stored in the treasury was empty, and then they decorated the dead with gold, jade and jewelry, tied them with silk-floor belts, and buried the carriage and horses in the cave. They must also make more curtains, curtains, bells, cauldrons, drums, banquets, wine pots, mirrors, spears, swords, feathers, ivory, and leather, and placed them in the bedroom of the deceased and buried them, and then they were satisfied. As for the burial, the emperor and princes killed hundreds and dozens of people after death; the generals and doctors killed dozens of people after death, and the fewer were dozens of people."

"You must support me to get up and walk with a cane. Live this way for three years."

"If the farmer walks according to this, he will not go out early and come back late, cultivate and plant; if the craftsmen walk according to this, he will not be able to build ships, cars, and make utensils; if the woman walks according to this, he will not be able to get up early and go to bed late, and spin yarn and weave cloth."

"The property has been formed and buried in the coffin; what should be produced after mourning does not appear because of mourning, which is a kind of reduction."

"So, from the point of view that increasing wealth is considered to benefit the world, the existing rules are also harmful to the world, while the rules of the Mohist are beneficial to the world."

After listening to the right statement, Ren Ke actually knew that he had lost, and this truth was hard to refute.

But he felt that he had keenly grasped the loophole in the language and said anxiously: "Your words may make sense, but don't you think this is contrary to the truth that Mozhe already has?"

"I heard that the ink person does not use curtains, bells, cauldrons, drums, tables, wine pots, mirrors, pearls, jade, etc. as treasures as wealth. So according to the ink person's definition of treasures, what is buried is not treasures, so the wealth has not decreased. For example, the ink person is not happy, so the princes and nobles are buried with the musical instruments, bells and tripods at the funeral. Isn't this the same idea that the ink person is not happy? If you think the bells and tripods are wealth, then why not happy?"

I stood up and said in a kind of pride that was unique at this time: "I thought you were sent by the Marquis of Wei and must be a smart person. Now it seems that you are so stupid that you can't tell the difference between wealth and treasure, and it's hard for me to communicate with you."

Ren Ke's face darkened, but he had to say, "Ask for advice."

"In the past, people rarely received jade. He regarded righteousness as treasure. When King Zhuang of Chu met, he did not hesitate to be misled by the beautiful girl. He did not regard the beautiful girl worth a thousand gold as treasure, but regarded the human heart as treasure... The treasure in everyone's eyes is different, but wealth can be defined."

"The products of all people's labor are wealth. Isn't the bell and tripods from people's labor? Since that's it, then of course this is wealth."

"As long as you calculate how much wealth there is in the world that has condensed labor, you can know whether the wealth has increased or decreased."

"Gold is more expensive than copper, but because smelting gold requires more labor than smelting copper. Labor is like rice grains in a bowl of rice, which generates wealth and measures wealth. Please give me a thing that does not require labor but wealth."

Ren Ke laughed loudly and said, "I'm sorry! I'll open a thousand miles of land, and land is wealth. But no one's labor."

Shi asked back, "When the land was opened, there was no wealth without people. Originally, a piece of land was planted without anything, only grass; a few years ago, people planted one season a year; now Pei County planted two seasons a year. So is it because labor produced wealth? Or did land produce wealth?

Ren Ke seemed to understand a little, but he still asked: "Didn't the king increase his wealth by opening up thousands of miles?"

Shi laughed and said, "The sea is boundless, why don't the king regard it as wealth? It's thousands of miles north and vast and uninhabited. Is Yan the most wealth? The king has opened up thousands of miles of land, and its wealth has indeed increased, but this wealth was created by people from the land of thousands of miles. Besides, the land belongs to those who work in the world, why should the king say that it is his? The working people use land to produce food, but if no one works, the land is land. Is it the same for the land that has been reclaimed for several years and the wasteland?"

"The king said that the land belongs to him, so people on the land have to pay taxes. So is the king's wealth tax or land? The king only deprived the people of the power to cultivate the land, but also gave them taxes to the people... It was like I robbed all your money and gave you ten more money, but you would thank me."

"The king's wealth is not land, but taxes that can be collected from the land and labor that can be collected. If the King of Chu is willing to give the land of Chu to the Marquis of Wei, but does not allow the Marquis of Wei to collect taxes, summon, etc., and just simply gives him land, then is this wealth?"

This is not dangerous to say that the words that were to be beheaded during the Ming and Qing dynasties in the future were said at this time. Ren Ke even felt that some reason was reasonable and he was not surprised. Yang Zhu, Mo Di, Zhongni and others spitted all day long, scolding princes and nobles either bastards or scumbags. At this time, the king had no choice but to care.

Shi shouted loudly: "Don't you understand yet? If you still need me to continue to explain the impact of a long and long mourning on political affairs?"

Ren Ke thought for a long time and was beaten up again. He knew that it would be meaningless to continue to argue, so he had to accept it and said, "I understand your truth, and I also know that your truth is right."

He stood up, bowed to the other Mozhe and Mozhe, and said, "I have heard of many truths about Mozhe, but I think your truth may be correct, but it cannot be practiced in the world."

"Do you have to do the right truth? For example, your reason convinced me, but the Marquis of Wei promised me a daughter, a good horse, a beautiful girl, a pearl and jade... Although I think your reason is right, I cannot give up those pearl and jade, so even if the reason is right, it is useless. Mr. Mo Zhai, you have been practicing righteousness for decades and have only hundreds of people around you. Is it because your reason is wrong? If the reason is right, you can do it all over the world. How come there are only hundreds of people around you?"

"So, please consider that Mo's entry into Wei and become an official, this is the only way for you to benefit the world. Your principle is correct, and your rules can also benefit the world, but now the rules do not change, so the world will remain unchanged. If you do not change the rules, you use skills. This is still beneficial to the world."

When Shi was about to refute, Mo Zi laughed, restrained his usual dialect, and said in an extremely pure and elegant language: "Shi just said that the current rules are harming the world. How can you say that it is not added or reduced?"

"If there is no mill, wheat is cheap food. If there is no mill, mill will have no use. Both are indispensable."

"The righteousness and politics of the Mohist are in line with the will of heaven, and also with the world after these new things and techniques appear. Now that the boat is moving forward, you have drawn marks on the boat, isn't this ridiculous?"

"It's like planting maize. The winter martial arts activities were originally abolished. This is something that even the kings who are willing to fight unjustly will have to consider. Is it okay to use old rules?"

"The meaning of the Mo is in line with the forward meaning, and it is also the only policy that can be in line with the emergence of things such as grass, silk, ox plowing, etc."
Chapter completed!