He wanted to lead the problem to the utilitarian question of "who is our common enemy, and what problem can help farmers to the greatest extent possible."

Continue to fight for the issue of "equality and fairness", and always be passive.

Taking the problem offside is to turn passive into initiative, because the theoretical explanations of the Mohist school make more sense with the Taoist theory of simple contradiction... The current unfairness is for future fairness. You can communicate happily with Taoism, but you cannot communicate like this with farmers.

Xu Xi was silent for a moment and said helplessly: "It is because he did not pay taxes, did not pay military service, and did not plow public fields. However, the villages in Si Shang have better farm tools than us, such as ear cutting machines, composting methods, such as more cattle and horses, and chubby plows..."

Shi was overjoyed. Since Xu Xi realized that both of them had problems, he asked first: "So, where do ear cutting machines, curved plows, trench trucks, water drains, wind mills, and horse pulling threshers come from? The gentleman and the people are both farming, but iron tools are also needed. Can small farmers make iron tools?"

"Mr. I saw that the farmers in Sishang Village were rich, far better than those in Chu, and even more so than those in Thousand People's Villages where farmers tried the land of benevolence and righteousness. The problems you see such as ear cutting machines, curved plows, and trolleys can actually be attributed to two problems."

"First, division of labor. Second, master the will of heaven and benefit others."

Shi solemnly asked Xu Xi: "Why should I ask you a question about the division of labor? Can you use a sword?"

Xu Xi showed a little shyness on his face and replied cautiously: "Although he knows how to use it, he is not as good as the Mo family's swordsman."

Shi asked again: "That gentleman killed hundreds of people with his sword, and those farmers who have been holding swords occasionally also killed hundreds of people. Who can kill faster?"

"It's me."

"So the sir thinks, which one of the employees who specializes in picking cotton in Sishang Village or those farmers who grow and pick their own cotton, can pick more cotton in one day?"

"Those people who specialize in picking cotton in Sishang Village."

"So, do you think that now when you do carpenter work, can you do the worst carpenter work faster than the one in Si Shang and who has obtained a carpenter certificate? Do you do the same carpenter faster? Or do the craftsmen do it faster?"

"It's a craftsman."

"Then the gentleman thinks that textiles are divided into twenty-seven processes, including flower picking, seed removal, combing, stripping, spinning, worsted spinning, weaving, and dyeing; compared with the one person completing it from planting to dyeing. For the same one hundred people, which side produces more cotton cloth?"

"It's the people in front."

"Then the sir think that the three tables that Zi Mozi said, namely: whether it increases the total wealth of the world, whether it makes the majority of people profit, and whether it makes the population increase, is it correct?"

"Mozi's great talent, my peasant disciples also agree with the three words he said."

Shi said in a deep voice: "Sir, since he agreed with Zi Mozi's three expressions, he did things that violate these three expressions. Zi Mozi said: If words are enough to be practiced again, do not behave regularly; if not enough to be performed, do not behave regularly. If not enough to be performed and constantly, it is a slut; if it is enough to be performed but not constantly, it is a false and slander. The gentleman recognized these three expressions, and not only did not implement them, but instead did it against them. Isn't this a hypocritical benevolence and righteousness that is enough to be performed but not constantly?"

Xu Xi was shocked and angrily scolded: "How can I be hypocritical benevolence and righteous? I agree with these three rules, and I also want people in the world to benefit. How can I say that I am hypocritical benevolence and righteous?"

Shi asked: "Just just now, you killed people with a sword and the farmer with a sword, the farmer also needs iron, cloth, salt, and oil, all the necessities of life. Then, the division of labor makes everyone produce more things within a certain period of time, but you have to oppose him. Isn't this just that you don't want the total wealth of the world to increase?"

"You agree that the total price of the total wealth of geniuses in the three tables is the standard for judging whether it is a benevolent and righteous government, but you also oppose that the total wealth of the world will increase. What is this a hypocritical villain? Just like you said that Zhou Zhou of Shang is unbenevolent and righteous, but you hold a sword to protect Zhou Zhou of Shang, this is something that cannot be reflected on."

"If you want people in the world to farm and eat, and do not refine the division of labor and make people always think of their careers, how can you increase the total wealth of the world?"

"So I think that if your principles are in the world, they will be a must."

Social division of labor increases productivity, which is the reason, which is what the Mohist school calls the will of heaven.

The more refined the division of labor, the greater the production efficiency will be. This is the source of the division of labor production workshop.

He avoided the fairness of the scissors gap between industry and commerce and agricultural products, but went directly to find loopholes in the farmer's model and kicked the ball to Xu Xi, forcing him to answer.

When Mencius debated with peasants, he avoided the issue of "fairness" and used the theory of "work hard work" similar to "social division of labor". However, in essence, it was to promote his own doctrine, making it reasonable for labor hard work - this sentence itself is correct, it is wrong in the era he mentioned, and did not solve the problem of bloodline. Those who work hard are bound to the feudal aristocratic class, and those who work hard are equivalent to feudal aristocratic, so if there is no mistake, it is wrong under the background of the times.

In addition, while using social division of labor to refute Xu Xi, he also told Xu Xi why social division of labor is needed and why social division of labor is right.

Work hard and labor have class attributes.

Similarly, social division of labor also has class attributes.

If social division of labor is recognized, then the workshop-made handicraft factory in Sishang is progressing, which is the correct way to increase the total wealth of the world. In other words, let the farmer of Song State go bankrupt and come to Sishang to work, that is... to some extent correct.

And this reputation is better: You see, it is the nobles who insisted on annexing the land to make profits. It is not our Mo family who forced the farmers to give up their land and come to the city to work in workshops. We took you in and fled. The nobles are simply too bastards. In the future, everyone will kill the nobles together, would you say okay? Anyway, the Mo family is now an opposition party in the world, and the nobles have to take the blame. Who has left the Zhou emperor and the princes?

If you do not agree, you must refute the difference in productivity brought about by social division of labor.

Xu Xi couldn't refute it in his heart, so he could only remain silent. He felt as if he had deviated from the debate topic, but he didn't know how to pull it back.

He dug a hole to let Shi jump in, but after he jumped in, he didn't choose to climb out, but chose to dig the surrounding ground level, and then dug a hole again and pushed him in.

Seeing Xu Xi silent, Shi immediately said: "This is like a steamed bun, and it is eaten. The Mohist three forms are to make the steamed buns bigger and divide the steamed buns fairly. The gentleman's method is to completely ignore making the steamed buns bigger, just to divide the steamed buns fairly, and even to give up a layer of skin outside the steamed buns for fairness, because that will lead to uneven divisions. Is that true?"

This sentence is another pitfall.

But to Xu Xi's hearing, this was simply a life-saving straw. In his opinion, a huge loophole finally revealed, and he couldn't help but feel very happy in his heart.

I thought to myself that if you continue to say what you just said, it will be difficult for me to get back the debate topic, but now you suddenly say that, which is just a wake-up call.

He immediately said: "What you said is exactly what I want to say. Mozi's three tables back then were what you meant. However, you only focused on making steamed buns bigger, but did not focus on the fairness of dividing steamed buns, which made industry and commerce profit and farmers suffer. This is the difference between our farmer and your Mo family."

Shi smiled and shook his head and said, "Sir, it's a big mistake. As today, it's not us who divides the steamed buns, but princes and nobles."

"The land was enfeoffed by the throne, and the farmers had to serve labor, pay taxes, farm for the public, and repair it for the throne. The nobles did not crop or bury, but they obtained a lot of food. This was the one who distributed steamed buns."

"As for industry and commerce to obtain farmers' blood and sweat, it was just a little bit of steamed bun scalp."

"So I said, sir's reason can only benefit the world in small ways, but not the world in large ways."

"It's like, one person kills someone, and the other person just doesn't clean the dust in front of his house. You want to kill someone who doesn't clean the dust, but don't chase the murderer."

"Everything has priorities. Shouldn't the problem now be to kill the person who killed the person first and then care about the person who has not cleaned up the dust in front of his door?"

Xu Xi was silent again, and after a moment, he said: "The person who kills people is wrong, but it does not mean that the person who does not clean up the dust in front of his door is right. There are only things in the world, but not small mistakes, which is worse than big mistakes."

Shi nodded and said, "There is nothing wrong with Mr.'s words. There are only right and wrong things in the world. But if Mr. holds a sword to restrain the world, then should he chase the murderer first? Or should he punish the person who does not clean up the dust in front of his door?"

Xu Xi sighed, "I will chase the murderer first. But, if you say this, does the Mo family think that it is also wrong?"

Shi nodded repeatedly and said, "How can it be wrong? The farmers in Chu State bought salt, and the salt price was very high. Merchants sought profits and exploited farmers. Does the Mohist agree?"

"Mr. Isn't the price of salt on Si by circulating on Si by circulating on Si by circulating on Si by circulating on Si by circulating on the State of Chu? Isn't the price of the Qianren Village Club even lower than that on the riverside? The salt industry also makes profits on Si, but even if the profit is still cheaper than on the riverside, it is more beneficial to the farmers. Isn't this a prover that Mr.'s reason is wrong? Whether it is beneficial is tested by practice. Practice proves that the means of Si are correct and can benefit the world, but Mr.'s means cannot benefit the world."

"The salt industry is low, but the price of salt is stipulated by the Si Shang Dynasty. This does not reach what Mr. said, "Full work brings full commodities". It can still make a profit, but the price of salt is lower than Mr.

"The second is to divide the labor and the Tianzhi benefit people through the way, so that every skilled salt worker produces more salt."
Chapter completed!