This rebuttal word was rebuked by Taoist doctrine.

It seems that it has attracted hatred from other families during the debate, but in fact, the relationship between Confucianism and Taoism has always been quite bad at this time. People from Yang, Zhu and Liezi are considered branches of Taoism, and Taoism has always believed that these rituals and laws are all things that bind people, and were created by saints who violate human nature and have no legal rationality at all.

Gaozi understood the other party's terror. If the other party knew that it would continue to argue "true" and "fake", it would be impossible to win.

So, taking advantage of this opportunity, he was criticized by his fellow Confucian scholars and turned the debate on the "true and false" of human nature to "good or bad" and "right or wrong".

True or false is true or false.

Right or wrong is right or wrong.

In some disciplines, these two are equivalent, such as mathematics.

But in terms of humanities, these two are not equivalent, they are not necessarily true, and fake ones may not necessarily be wrong.

Gaozi could clearly feel that the other party was avoiding the important and trying to point the problem to the right and wrong, because if you continue to argue, Gaozi can be said to be sure.

This is actually the same routine as the debate topic just now, "Everyone has a kindness and righteous heart": the heart of benevolence and righteousness cannot be seen, or may not be expressed, but why do you say it does not?

It’s like giving you a wooden barrel, which is not allowed to be opened, weighed, and shaken and cut open. I just said there is something inside, how did you prove that it doesn’t?

You can't prove it doesn't, then you can distort it for you to admit that it may exist.

You admit that it may exist, then you can distort it for you to admit that it does exist.

If you admit that it really exists, it is equivalent to you admitting that human nature is the heart of benevolence and righteousness.

The same is true for this "everyone may have a kind heart, and everyone may respect politeness."

Why do you say that this kind of world where everyone is polite cannot exist?

If you cannot prove that this kind of world where everyone respects etiquette cannot exist, then it proves that ours is not wrong - for example, now I say that one plus one equals three, three plus one equals five, then I say that one plus one and one again equals five, is it wrong?

Now your Mohist school says that human needs are human nature, so you infer that the world you gain should be what you say, and the laws should also be the laws you say, but your theory is based on one plus one equals two.

Your theory is also correct, but it does not mean that our theory is wrong, because if one plus one equals three, then three plus ones really equals five. Can you prove that there is no such possibility of "everyone keeps politeness"?

Gaozi is also a figure who has been ups and downs within the Mohist school for more than 20 years. Internal debates require much more consideration than this.

Since the other party understood that continuing to debate what human nature was, it would likely lead to the possibility of self-discipline and rehabilitation of rituals being completely overthrown, he chose to argue right and wrong, good and evil, Gaozi's heart moved slightly, and then he thought of continuing to talk along with the other party's topic.

The other party has never understood that the purpose of debating in front of the people in the open space is not to distinguish the truth from the false, but to convince the people.

However, it just happens that the truth is easier for the people to accept.

Gaozi then asked, "I remember that Zhongni thought the matter of Jiarong was a small matter, right?"

The Confucian scholar opposite nodded helplessly. He knew that most of the people who were watching the fun were so-called "bitters", but he couldn't say this sentence even the Master had never said.

Fan Chi asked to learn from Jia. The Master said, "I am not as good as the old farmer." He asked to learn from the nurse. He said, "I am not as good as the old farmer." Fan Chi came out. The Master said, "What a villain, Fan Wang! If the best of politeness, the people dare not be disrespectful; if the best of politeness, the people dare not be dissatisfied; if the best of politeness, the people dare not be dissatisfied; if the best of politeness, the people dare not be dissatisfied; if the best of politeness, the people of all directions will bear their sons and arrive, how can they use Jia?"

This is a very famous allusion. Fan Chi asked the Master about farming, and the Master said that I was not as good as an old farmer. He turned around and told his disciples that Fan Chi was a villain.

Gaozi asked again: "Since you don't learn how much food a person can produce in a year?"

"You don't know. When Confucius was still alive, he could produce thirty or fifty kilograms of grain per acre. Now he can produce 4 or 500 kilograms in two seasons, which has increased tenfold and more than ten times."

Gaozi is also talking lies with his eyes open.

Because the mu at that time and the mu in Si are not the same mu at all, the former is only one-third of the latter.

The other party is a Confucian scholar, so of course I don’t know the difference.

The people in the audience were convinced that Gaozi was right. Isn’t it four or five hundred kilograms in two seasons combined? If some water is sucked into the fields and there are manure, I’m afraid that there will be seven or eight hundred kilograms in two seasons.

Gaozi asked again: "As you said, self-restraint and regain rituals, it is because there are so many food and cloth in the world, so according to regulations, there must be appropriate substances for each level. Is this the only purpose?"

"If it is not the only purpose, it is equivalent to admitting that etiquette is to make nobles exploit the people as sworms."

The Confucian scholar on the opposite side seemed to have thought of something, but it was too late, so he had to say: "It is the only purpose. Master Daren and Duke of Zhou are of course for this reason, not what you said to make the nobles accused of getting nothing for nothing."

Gaozi smiled and said, "Now, with the unchanged population, the surplus grain in the hands of the people has increased by five or ten times, but they are not allowed to violate etiquette and law. Even if they want to accumulate food to survive the famine, they will still have several times more grain than before, according to etiquette and law."

"So, what is the purpose of producing grain, vegetables, and cloth silk? Isn't it for people to use it?"

"It is used to accumulate grain for the past year, and it is used to wear clothes to resist the cold. You can use grain to make wine, exchange grain for more goods, and wear better-looking cloth clothes. Isn't it also used?"

"As you said, in order to continue to implement self-restraint and rehabilitation, do you have to return to the time when the yield per mu is twenty kilograms? Otherwise, wouldn't so many surplus grain cloths be produced, so that they can only be piled up to allow them to slowly rot?"

"Is this what you want? In order to restrain yourself and regain your rituals, it is better to return the world's grain output to twenty kilograms per mu. Otherwise, so much grain will rot and the cloth will become moldy and not be used, what should I do?"

"So iron tools, farm tools, horses and ox plowing, and new looms are all hindering your self-restraint and rejuvenation. They should be burned, right?"

The Confucian scholar had no choice but to say, "As the superiors attach importance to etiquette, the people dare not be disrespectful; as long as those in the superiors attach importance to righteousness, the people dare not disobey; as long as those in the superiors pay attention to faith, the people dare not treat you sincerely. If this is done, people from all directions will come to join their children on their backs, so how can they have to grow crops by themselves?"

"Confucianism is the study of gentlemen, and gentlemen serve the superiors. Jiahe's affairs... we may not understand, and we may not understand the changes brought by Jiahe, but... we can focus on the basis and ignore the standards."

"The so-called "So-Master's "Suppressing oneself and returning rituals" is not the certain Zhou rituals, but the world situation of "Suppressing oneself and returning rituals."

"If it is ritual...if it is ritual anymore, it can be modified. For example, meals, wine and drinks, which were originally able to eat by doctors, and scholars can eat by masters, and doctors can eat by princes... In accordance with the times, modifying the details of rituals cannot violate the essence of self-restraint and regaining rituals."

"Etiquette can be adaptable, but self-restraint and self-repair cannot be changed. According to the needs of the people spoken by the Mohist family, is human nature. Even if you are proficient in small people, can you really meet everyone's needs one day in the future?"

"If you can't, you will be the most perfect."

"Businessmen seek profit, but their desires are difficult to satisfy. They can buy everything that they originally violate."

"Indeed, as you said, everyone is equal, and everyone can buy everything they want with just spending money, but how can everyone be very rich? There must be poor and rich."

"So, in essence, everyone is still unequal. It's just that etiquette and law are turned into money."

"Why don't you talk about false equality? You have to make new etiquette rules and regulations, and formulate new etiquette rules according to the wealth of the world today, so that people of any identity can enjoy what kind of food, clothing, and entertainment..."

This time, the voices of opposition from Confucian scholars below are even more intense.

"You want to modify even the etiquette and law? Do you still dare to call yourself a Confucian scholar?"

"Who do you think you are? Master?"

"Come down, he is not a Confucian scholar at all, and his words cannot replace us!"

"Etiquette and law are unchangeable!"

"A person who has changed his etiquette and law dares to call himself a Confucian scholar? Go to yours and ask for principles and standards!"

"Get down!"

Amid the scolding, Gaozi felt that the other party was ambitious, so he asked with a smile: "So, what is the basis for distinguishing identity? Even if there is a difference between high and low, what is it based on? Is it bloodline?"

The Confucian scholar was suddenly asked to the point of being a fatal point, and no matter how he answered this question, he was wrong.

It’s not bloodline? That’s contrary to etiquette. What does the distinction between monarch and subject depend on? It depends on natural bloodline. Otherwise, wouldn’t that be equivalent to recognizing the choice of emperor and princes of the Mo family?

It is blood... So how could the people in the world accept it? Especially when the people's minds have been incited by the Mohist school, how could they accept it?

The Confucian scholar sighed in his heart, saying that I had long said that the path of Confucianism is not the people, but the king. These people do not listen and insist on coming to Si Shang to safeguard etiquette and debate with the Mohist school.

The audience here is the people, how could they accept our statement?

Only by lobbying the king can it be possible.

They don’t listen, and they don’t know that Confucian scholars serve the superiors.

But lobbying the king is a bit difficult to do.

Now is a great struggle. If you want to establish a new ritual, new laws and new hierarchy, you need someone in the world who can let all the princes listen to it. Now that the Zhou emperor is weak, who can take this responsibility?

The other princes are now thinking about enriching the country and strengthening their soldiers. Where can they think about new etiquette and law? New etiquette and law must have the world. Who dares to say that they have the world?

The most powerful princes in Si Shang Mo family could not accept Confucian scholars. The Three Jins have undergone reforms that violated etiquette. Qin is now not sure that Confucian scholars go to lobby. The Guanzi school in Qi is even more capable of enriching the country. Chu is a barbarian, but Chu is also reforming now.

Perhaps after the world is unified, he may accept his grand ideas, but the problem now is... a monarch with the idea of ​​unification of the world will not accept the lobbying of Confucian scholars; if the world is unified, the reform of etiquette and law he planned will not be realized. This is a contradiction and paradox, and it is also because he does not want to come to Si Shang at all.

According to his thoughts, the current Confucianism is in a diminishing situation, and all directions of innovation are occupied by the increasingly clearer schools of thought. The reason why Confucian scholars are Confucian scholars because they pursue self-discipline and rejuvenate etiquette, and if they pursue something else, they are considered people from other schools of thought.

So the current situation should be tolerated and should not argue with these people.

When the world is gradually unification, there will be a chance to stand up and formulate new etiquette and laws for the king, rather than defying these people now.

He thought that the more you argue, the more you become clearer, you should not argue, but wait until you are patient. Don’t look at the current Yang Zhu, Taoist, farmer and Mo family, the future kings may not be without their Confucian scholars. Life and death are difficult to predict, and the outcome is difficult to determine. In the long run, there is still hope of winning.

But now, these fellow disciples have to argue, argue, and argue! Especially in front of the people, they don’t even know where the Confucian scholars are standing and who they speak for. How can they win?
Chapter completed!