The ancestor sneered: "The leader of the regiment training? These officials who retired or went home to visit relatives, Ding You, could call for wind and rain in their hometowns and attract many people to serve them. If it was a peaceful time, doing so would be a crime of gathering people to rebel and ill-intentioned rebellion. However, in troubled times, especially if the court gave the authority to recruit soldiers to fight against thieves, these became legitimate moves. After suppressing the rebellion, they held their own troops and robbed a large amount of money in the war, making them rich. What kind of Westernization Movement should be carried out? Isn't it more glorious to directly overthrow the Qing emperor and then ascend the throne by themselves?"

Liu Yu shook his head: "Then he will become Dong Zhuo and others. The reason why these people had a good reputation at that time was that they stood on the side of the court. In later generations, unified dynasties often lasted for two or three hundred years. With the brainwashing of Zhou Li and Confucian scholars, people in the world thought that the emperor was the emperor and the dynasty was orthodox. No matter how many problems there were, they should not be overthrown by the common people through rebellion. They could only change the dynasty by abdication or the new heroes that came to the destiny."

The ancestor laughed: "Even Liu Bang and Xiang Yu and others' sets of troops to eliminate violence? Even if the Five Barbarians invade China and destroy Jin State, they still took out the banner of losing the Jin Dao and saving the people of the world. Are these rebel leaders in later generations even worse than the Huguan?"

Liu Yu shook his head and said seriously: "The Qing Dynasty had been in the pass for nearly two hundred years. At that time, it was regarded as the orthodox of the world. Moreover, before the Western powers came, the Qing Dynasty also allowed the Central Plains to maintain peace for nearly two hundred years. No major wars occurred, and the population of the world increased a lot. Although the Qing Dynasty was a regime established by foreign races, they fully accepted the Confucian theories and ideas of the Central Plains and ruled in the way of the Han people. Therefore, over time, they were also accepted by the people of the Central Plains, especially the Han people. Until the invasion of the Western powers, whether it was the aristocratic people in the Central Plains or the people, they still stood on the side of the Qing government to fight against foreign enemies."

"The Qing army was defeated later and was forced to sign many humiliating and unequal treaties, and lost power and humiliated the country. However, for the common people, their lives did not change much, at most they paid more taxes. In addition, due to the influx of a large number of Western industrial products, many handicraft investors went bankrupt. However, they would not count the accounts on the Qing Dynasty, but they hated foreigners even more, believing that their invasion changed their lives."

"But those rebels who rebels did not raise their troops under the banner of expelling the barbarians under the conflict between Manchu and Han, but instead used the religion of the Western people to believe in Western God, saying that they were God's messengers and believers in China, and wanted to clear monsters like the Qing Dynasty for God, and to restore peace to the world, and establish an eternal kingdom of heaven on earth. In order to achieve this, they not only called the officials and soldiers of the Qing Dynasty as demons, but also said that Confucianism was a fallacy and a traitor to confront God. Wherever they passed, they also destroyed schools and killed teachers, and did not recognize those gentry with education. In this way, all the gentry and landlords and powerful people in the Central Plains were pushed to the side of the Qing Dynasty."

The ancestor sneered: "It's ridiculous. Either rely on the power of the Western powers to completely turn to them to gain Western weapons and even the support of the army, or don't engage in these Western religions. It seems that the level of these rebels is not very good. Even if they only shout slogans such as wealth, wealth, high and low, or a slogan like a king, general, and minister, they will not fail in the end. I don't have to listen to you in history to guess their ending."

Liu Yu said coldly: "I'm bragging here again and don't make drafts. Then what do you think will they end up?"

The ancestor said without thinking: "This kind of uprising in the name of religion is a ready-made way of the Heavenly Master. Since the army is raised, it will be a threat to all the people they can meet. They either join them, kill demons for the world, or become demons and be killed alive. This will be a certain period, especially when the army is just starting, with great momentum, and a large number of people along the way are forced or actively join them. Just like when Sun En was uprising."

"But after a while, if the imperial army recovers, it will form a stalemate with them. In the past, those corrupt and incompetent generals will be replaced, and those troops that cannot be fought will be eliminated. In the face of life and death, there will always be some new army and new generals. They think they are the king's salary and loyalty to the king. Just like you, they will take the troops they can find in their hands to fight against these rebels. Since the Western powers chose to cooperate with the Qing Dynasty instead of these rebels, they will provide various weapons, technologies, and even directly send troops to help. The isolated rebels will be doomed to fail at the moment when they choose to be enemies with Confucianism. Moreover, this religious rebel will inevitably compete for power and profit, and in the end it is very likely to be killed by oneself, just like Lu Xun and Xu Dao overturned the fire and merged Sun En."

"So, after years of war and loss of a large population, this rebellion will eventually be quelled, just like you quell the Tianshidao Rebellion. As the chief general of the rebellion, those regiment leaders will succeed and become famous, hold heavy troops, and control one side. The Qing Dynasty's court troops could not even defeat the rebels, and they could not do anything about these regiment leaders who had actually become princes. What you said about the Westernization Movement is that they saw the interests of Western weapons in the war, and they also believed that the Western system was better than the Confucian model and the Central Plains regime for thousands of years."

"You have said before that the reason why the Western powers were able to establish a country was because they defeated the king and defeated the royal power through many wars. Therefore, the people believed that the nobles and capitalists were the destiny of heaven, and the king was not. Do these leaders of the Westernization Movement Group want to abandon the Confucianism and Zhou Li in the Central Plains and turn to the foreigners' arrangements?"
Chapter completed!