Chapter 315: Gao Zi's Debate (2)
When the sun rises high, the debate has begun.
Gaozi said: "Birth is nature."
The Confucian scholar said: "Life is called nature, just as white is called white and?"
He said: "Of course."
"The white feathers are like the white of white snow; is the white of white snow like the white jade?"
He said: "Of course."
"However, the nature of a dog is like a cow, and is the nature of a cow a human being?"
Gaozi laughed and said, "It's right. The natural nature of a dog determines that it is a dog; the natural nature of a cow determines that it is a cow; the natural nature of a human determines that he is a human. Your words make sense. Isn't this justifying what I say, birth is called nature?"
The Confucian scholar also laughed and said, "It's ridiculous, ridiculous. The Mo family has no father and beasts, so they think that everyone in the world is all beasts. Dogs are like cows? Cows are like humans? Isn't this ridiculous?"
Gaozi, who had been studying hard for ten years, was stunned.
He was not speechless by the other party's question, but was at a loss by the other party's strange logic.
The nature of a dog and the nature of a cow have the same meaning. How can we conclude that dogs and humans have the same meaning?
Sex means the same thing, but dogs and cows do not mean the same thing. Didn’t we just debate whether “sex” was born?
Not only Gaozi, but also the people watching the fun in the audience were stunned, thinking, how did they come to the conclusion?
Seeing Gaozi slightly stunned, the Confucian scholar was overjoyed and thought to himself that I had heard that the Mohist school was good at eloquence and did not want to be so vulnerable.
Looking at the people around watching the fun, they seemed to be at a loss. The Confucian scholar thought, I have broken the way of the Mohist school by myself! The people of Si Shang will only know how to educate them today!
Gaozi was stunned for a moment and thought that this debate must not be dealt with as difficult and obscure as he had imagined before. This is not arguing with the famous scholar Deng Xi.
So he immediately said: "Does the white color and the black color mean the same as the word color?"
The Confucian scholar said: "Yes."
"Then the color of white and black are the same color. According to you, white is black? White is black? The meaning of sex is in human nature. The meaning of dog nature is the same. You can conclude that humans are dogs?"
The Confucian scholar cursed: "Man is human, how can he be put together with animals? The Mohist family has no father, which is for animals, not for no reason. How can humans and animals use the same nature?"
Gaozi said: "Nature, born with nature, is nature. It is not just human nature, dogs have dog nature, but even round and round nature. Moment has moment. Is there any problem?"
"For example, a circle must conform to the nature of a circle. So what is a circle? Do you know what a circle is?"
The Confucian scholar disdained: "What is drawn with a compass is a circle."
Gaozi smiled and said, "What is drawn with a compass is a circle? Now I first draw a semicircle with a compass, then move the position, and then draw a semicircle, so this is a circle?"
The Confucian scholar stumbled and said: "Circle...round...round is round. You can know if it is round. You can know if it is round. You can know if it is not round. Round is round."
The people below suddenly booed, and the people who couldn't squeeze in the outer circle had already left. They thought to themselves that this is nothing? It's not interesting. Why not go to the teahouse to hear someone telling the story of Wu Zixu whipping the corpse? Where did you say it yesterday?
Gaozi laughed and said, "The roundness means that the face without thickness is the same length. Any circle conforms to this roundness and is summarized. This is the roundness. Zi Mozi was unwilling to debate with you back then, and asked you why you wanted to learn joy. You said it is for joy. Now I ask you what circle is, and you are circle is circle. Then human nature is human nature, and there is no need to debate. Why are you standing here for? "
The Confucian scholar's face was shy and had to step down from the public's booing. Another Confucian scholar immediately added and laughed: "The circles are all the same length as one middle? Then I draw a semicircle, determine a point, and think that the middle is also the same length, so the semicircle is a circle?"
Gaozi sneered: "The face without thickness is the same length as one, which is round. All circles are in line with each other, but what is in line with each other is not necessarily the round. The round is the dot with each other length as one. Just like a dog eating shit, the dung beetle also eats shit. Can you think that all those who eat shit are dung beetle?"
"Humans also need to get along with each other, and dogs also need to get along with each other. Intercourse is a manifestation of human nature and a manifestation of dog nature, but it cannot be said that this is all dog nature and human nature."
"So I say that food, sex, and nature are also. Without saying that all human nature is food, sex."
The Confucian scholar was furious and said, "You put people and animals together. Do you think people are also animals? This is the root of the Mo family's fatherlessness. You Mo family don't know what humans are at all! You regard people as animals... How can humans be the same?"
After Gaozi finished scolding the other party, he asked, "Rectangles and diamonds are different. Is the difference between the two the rectangles and diamonds? Then, there are four sides, four sides are straight lines, and the sum of the inner corners is a roundness. All of this is the same, so isn't their nature?"
"Man and animal have similarities and different places. People have eyes, and animals have eyes. People have to eat, and they have to eat at birth. So according to you, people must be different from animals. If animals want to eat, people cannot eat? If animals want to get along, people cannot get along? Otherwise, people are animals?"
The Confucian scholar was speechless.
Gaozi immediately asked again: "Do you think people are different from animals?"
"certainly."
"Did you give birth to your parents?"
"Of course!"
"So as you say, humans and animals cannot be the same. If your parents have sex, animals will also have sex. So your parents are animals? And you are not humans, they are animals?"
The Confucian scholar suffered this great humiliation and was humiliated to his parents, and said furiously: "I will avenge such a great revenge!"
Before Gaozi could answer, the people below shouted: "Come on, your Confucians call us beasts all day long. According to what you say, we have to slaughter all the Confucian scholars all over the world for this sentence? Because you also scolded my parents and also scolded Fuxi and Nuwa, we are all their descendants..."
Gaozi glanced at the other party and thought to himself that my swordsmanship was not very good, but if you hit you, you should be able to hit three or five people. So he smiled and said, "It's you who insulted you, how can you say it's me? According to your words, people and animals cannot be the same. If animals are inseparable, your mother is insulting you. Is it that I am insulting your parents? Or are you insulting yourself?"
"You Confucian scholars are filial, but you insult your parents as beasts. I have never seen such a shameless person. What kind of face do you have in the world? In the future, when you see Master Zhongni in the nine foes, how do you have to claim to be a Confucian scholar?"
The Confucian was so angry that he didn't breathe and fainted on the ground. He immediately carried him away, which caused bursts of laughter.
Another Confucian scholar went up and asked, "You said that food, sex, nature, etc. That is to say, eating and intercourse are all human nature."
"You Mo family said again that you should obey human nature. If you follow human nature, wouldn't everyone be a woman? Isn't your Mo family causing trouble in the world? Isn't this instigating everyone in the world to be annihilated lust?"
Gaozi said, "You have the following thing, so you are a lewd person? Can't you sleep with your wife? Isn't sleep with your wife obeying human nature?"
The Confucian scholar snorted: "What you said is a beast!"
"Those who intercourse for the sake of intercourse are beasts!"
"I marry a wife to give birth to children and pass on the family line. It's not to obey the animal nature. The reason why people are human is to be different from animals, and being animals is the root of chaos in the world!"
"If people get along for the desire to get along, what's the difference with animals?"
The people below cursed: "You Confucian scholars want all men in Jiuzhou to be geldings! I took that thing with me when I was born, why did I have to have children to use it? If you are willing to be geldings, don't let everyone in the world follow you as geldings!"
In the past, people who were onlookers rarely had such chaos.
Twenty years of indoctrination and natural liberation have made the people of Si Shang hate this kind of thing that restrain their normal desires. It is certainly wrong to eat well, but what happened to me by farming and working to eat something that doctors can eat? Those doctors and princes are worms and snatch the fruits of labor from us. They haven’t felt embarrassed yet, but they let us restrain our desires?
The Si Shang retains more openness to the public. In addition, the Mo family often insults the nobles in the market, using methods that the audience likes to see: for example, Tian’s cuckold hobby, the three kings and one descendants of Chen during the time of Duke Chen, the widows who played by Jin Hou were robbed and killed, the daughter of Jiang Qi’s family and her brother played with her husband, the Chu State’s ash and other nonsense, in order to make the people think that there is no bullshit aristocratic spirit?
After a long time, I finally calmed down. Gaozi said, "Human nature is neither good nor evil. Eating is also one of the manifestations of human nature. Why didn't you not eat when you see you?"
The Confucian scholar said: "I will not cause trouble to the world when I eat! But lust will make people want to rape and lust all women in the world, which will cause chaos."
Gaozi asked again: "If a person has been hungry for many days and has not eaten, so he chooses to steal food and eat it, then is this considered what you call a disaster in the world? If everyone does not eat, there will be no food stealing. Is it evil to steal other people's food? If you think that it can cause chaos in the world, you should restrain it, and then eating should be restrained."
The Confucian scholar could not answer, so he had to say, "Man should obey human nature, but your Mohist school believes that animal nature is also one of human nature, which is a disaster for the world. Human nature is inherently good, only benevolence, righteousness, courtesy, wisdom, and trustworthiness are human nature, and the rest are not human nature. Even if people want to obey human nature, they should obey true human nature. This is the difference between humans and animals."
"You advocate food and sex, and seeking profit is also human nature, that is, making the world turmoil. People must know that benevolence and righteousness are human nature, and the only human nature, so that the world can be healthy."
"Does animals have benevolence? Do animals have righteousness? Those who have benevolence and righteousness must be humans. So I say that human nature is inherently good. The difference between humans and animals lies in benevolence and righteousness. Isn't that right?"
Gaozi laughed and said, "You haven't answered my question yet. Eating may cause chaos in the world, so do people have to restrain their desire to eat? Kong Zhongni even said that if you never tire of eating fine meat, do you tell me if people have to restrain their desire to eat?"
The Confucian scholar said: "Eating is OK, but it must be in line with etiquette. Correcting one's identity, what identity, and what kind of food to eat is to restrain oneself and rebuild etiquette. Untouchables should not think about eating what doctors should eat..."
"Fuck you!"
Before he could finish his words, the people in the audience had already started to curse. The people close to him were about to rush up the stage in a mess. Several retired soldiers who had returned from service, who were originally fled to slavery, and who joined the South China Sea Chamber of Commerce, cursed: "Say it again? I'm so shit! I'm tying, and I pulled the nobles out like a dead dog to be executed. I just spent money to listen to a chime-knuckle bells and drums at the People's Theater, and I'm more polite. How about it?"
The garrison brigade in charge of the guards hurriedly stood up and separated the crowd with his hands. The officer on duty shouted: "Don't be messed up! Don't be messed up! We must insist on using the truth to convince others! Don't take action!"
Someone cheered: "The giant said that truth is easier to spread within the range of muskets! Don't argue with them, use muskets and bronze cannons to reason with them hey."
"Ha ha ha ha……"
Chapter completed!