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Chapter 316: Gao Zi's Debate (3)

As more people die, unspoken rules will naturally be formed and experience will naturally be more.

There are at least two or three hundred people who died of conflicts and fights in various concepts nearby, or who are still in labor reform now.

This Confucian scholar came from other places, but how could he know these experiences?

Some Confucian scholars who had lived in Si Shang for a long time and fell in love with the Mo family when they heard this, they knew that they were finished. Especially a few people around them knew that they were also Confucian scholars, so they stared at them fiercely. The Confucian scholars who had lived in Si Shang for a long time hurriedly said, "That's not what I said... I also think... no..."

After holding it in for a long time, I didn’t know what to say. I can’t say that it’s wrong to restrain myself and re-rituals, right? It’s wrong to restrain myself and re-rituals, so why should I be a Confucian scholar?

In desperation, the Confucian scholar who had been surrounded by Si for a long time hurriedly said, "He is not a real Confucian scholar!"

"The real Confucian scholars talk about self-restraining and restoring etiquette means that they should let princes and nobles restrain themselves. They did it first and then everyone did it... It's not that you can't use food that is outrageous..."

Another Confucian scholar next to him immediately cursed: "Shameless! A timid person! If a person can be abducted, then what kind of courtesy is there? You are afraid of being beaten, but I am not afraid!"

He stared at the angry gaze looking around and shouted: "The laws of Si Shang, those who fight in the public, will be sentenced to labor reform, and Xiamai will be collected soon. If you are willing to labor reform, then do it. I am not afraid of you!"

After finally calming down on the stage, the Confucian scholar was already frightened and had to step down in shame. He hid in the group of Confucian scholars under the gaze of a group of gazes that he wanted to eat his flesh.

Another Confucian scholar came to power, and Gaozi asked, "Do you also think that human nature is good, but isn't bad human nature?"

"Of course."

"So, a red wood ball, can you say that red is all this red wood ball?"

Confucian scholar said: "However, red is the basis for distinguishing it from not a blue ball, not a yellow ball."

Gaozi asked, "So, aren't people who don't do it according to your Confucian benevolence and righteousness?"

The Confucian scholar said: "No, it is a gentleman who can achieve benevolence and righteousness."

Gaozi smiled and said, "That means that benevolence and righteousness are the gentleman nature of your Confucianism. What is in line with is a gentleman, and what is not in line with is not the gentleman you think is, so how can we say that this is human nature?"

"It's like, rape and sexual misconduct, this is the sexual misconduct, and what is in line with this characterization is the sexual misconduct; what is stolen from other people's property is the sexual misconduct, and what is in line with this characterization is the sexual misconduct. Can you say that these are human nature?"

"It's like, a yellow dog. You Confucianism says that only a yellow dog is a dog. Isn't this ridiculous? Isn't a white dog a dog?"

"White dogs and yellow dogs are all dogs, but are yellow and white dogs' common sex?"

"Dog sex should be found in all dogs, so it is called dog sex. The white of a white dog is the white dog sex of a white dog; the yellow of a yellow dog is the yellow dog sex of a yellow dog. However, neither yellow nor white are dog sex."

The Confucian scholar said helplessly: "Yes. However, I think your Mohist school says that human nature has no good or evil and that it recognizes human needs, which will cause chaos in the world."

Gaozi said seriously: "Can you debate? I will talk to you about what human nature is, do you talk to me about the world's governance and chaos? I talk to you about the world's governance and chaos, and you will talk to me about human nature at that time. Now I will only ask you if you eat, is it the nature of human beings? Please give me a positive answer to yes or no. My definition of sex is born, and you should answer yes or no within my scope. Do I need to tell you the basis of Zi Mozi's edited debate technique?"

The Confucian scholar pondered for a while and said, "Yes, not."

Gaozi smiled and said, "A thing can be a dog, it can be not a dog, but it cannot be a dog or a dog. Yes, yes, no, no."

Confucian scholar said: "White and red are both colors, not white, then they must not be white, but they may not be red, but black. Beyond human nature, it is not necessarily inhumane, but there are other things. For example, benevolent, unkind is not necessarily cruel, it may be just numb."

Gaozixin said, what are you talking about?

After combing it for a long time, I seemed to understand it and smiled and said, "You are changing your concept again. You have changed your gentleman's nature to human nature. Red, black is a gentleman or a villain, but a person is like a bunch of silk, red and black, that is external, and the nature of silk is just silk. It is not silk, it must not silk; it is not red silk, it may be black silk."

"I'll ask you again, is eating human sex? Are there people who don't eat?"

The Confucian scholar had no choice but to say: "No. If sex is the sex you define, then eating is a manifestation of human nature."

"However, it is also divided into nature and human desires. If you eat enough, you cannot starve to death. That is nature. If you want to eat well, you are human desires. Therefore, human nature is to live by eating, and wanting to eat well is not human nature. Therefore, I said that eating is human nature and not human nature."

"You Mohist family said that people's satisfaction with their own needs is human nature, and this is a disaster for the world. People must distinguish their nature and their own selfish desires, so that the world can be ruled."

Gaozi said: "Eating is selfish desire. Because people want to live, they eat. If they want to live, they are desire. Eating is not for eating. Eating is not human nature, but an external manifestation of human nature. The purpose of eating is to live. Various behaviors that people do for their own desire to live are human nature."

"Human nature itself has no good or evil. Only practice can bring good or evil, and good or evil are determined by humans."

"So, there are people first, and at the moment when there are people, there will be human nature, and then there will be good and evil, and then there will be good and evil. Before Zhou Gong made the etiquette, was there no one? In ancient times, was there no one? At that time, there was no one, so there was no good and evil that is now. How can you say that etiquette is human nature? Is it the person who has first been? Or the good and evil that has first been good and evil?"

The Confucian scholar said: "The good and evil that exist first will be there before they exist. In other words, good and evil are destined by heaven. The moment a person appears, good and evil will appear. Therefore, etiquette and law are greater than what you call human nature, and at least it must be equal."

"In ancient times, people gathered together to eat raw meat and drink blood, and do the same work together. This is because goodness is ahead of others. Now people forget goodness and lack education, so everyone seeks profit."

"If everyone seeks profit, then how could there be good governance in ancient times that they have done the same work together?"

Gaozi said: "Because in ancient times, people could not plant wild animals everywhere, and people could not live without their tribes. It was because of human nature and the desire to live and reproduce that they transformed themselves into the ancient times when they were doing and working together. Because those who wanted to go out to live were eaten by wild animals and were sick and no one took care of them, and those people died, so the people transformed themselves into the ancient times that seem to be the great good policy for now."

He used "self-transformation" to explain it. Some of the Taoist schools who were listening to the following nodded, thinking that the Mohist principles were still very correct.

It was precisely because of this situation at that time that Taoism always believed that saints knew nothing? It was because there were no saints that all things were transformed and ancient good governance emerged. If there were saints at that time, and the etiquette and rules that were stipulated, people would perish.

Many disciples of the Taoist school thought: All things transform themselves, and your Mohist school also recognizes this principle.

Gaozi also said: "If etiquette is not easy for generations, then the etiquette of men and women not close to each other and dress appropriately is the greatest rule in ancient times. Can people in ancient times survive? Therefore, etiquette is not easy for generations, but only conforms to a certain era."

"The laws and policies of the world can rely on the self-transformation of all things, and can also be known through the study of the will of heaven. If there is a person who knows such a will of heaven and returns to ancient times, he can still achieve the effect of self-transformation of all things. The result of rationally saying that knowledge promotes evolution after knowing the will of heaven is the same."

The followers of the Taoist school below laughed and said, "Let's argue these Confucian scholars first. The debate between Mo and Tao is secondary. What do they know how to transform themselves? They think saints are born with them, and they think etiquette and law are preceded by others."

Gaozi thought to himself, do you think I am willing to debate with you? The main reason is that I am a Mozhe and a member of the Central Committee. I have to speak politically. After I say that I have to make a self-transformation, I have to say rationality. It can be achieved not only by self-transformation, but also by rational reasoning. Otherwise, all of them will be inaction. The farmers would definitely rather restore the etiquette and law of the feudal patriarchal system than by industrialists and businessmen.

If you don’t follow this sentence, it’s a public place and you’re being grabbed by someone in the future, that’s going to be troublesome.

When the Confucian scholar heard Gao Zi say this, he immediately changed the topic and asked loudly: "I will ask you, are animals benevolent and righteous? If animals do not, then is benevolence and righteousness the nature of human beings? Human nature is inherently good!"

Gaozi also asked loudly: "I've been talking for so long, why don't you understand? Even if you talk about benevolence and righteousness, it's like eating shit for dogs, and swimming for fish. Generally speaking, eating shit is dog-like, but eating shit is not all about dogs. The same is true for fish. Swimming is one of the sexes of fish, but just talking about swimming is not necessarily fish."

"Even if the benevolence and righteousness you mentioned exists, if so, then if benevolence and righteousness are human nature, are they not people without benevolence and righteousness? Just as the distance between a fixed point and any place is not all equal, then this figure is definitely not a circle."

A Confucian scholar said: "Everyone has a heart of benevolence and righteousness, but it is hidden in the heart. You can't see it, and sometimes it doesn't show it. Compassion is everyone; shame is everyone has; respect is everyone; right and wrong is everyone has it. Compassion is benevolence, shame is righteousness, respect is courtesy; right and wrong is wisdom. These benevolence, righteousness, courtesy and wisdom are not added to me by external factors, but are inherent in me, but I just don't think about it in normal times and therefore don't think about it."

"A person has a heart of benevolence and righteousness, but sometimes a heart of benevolence and righteousness may not be expressed, so you cannot say that he does not. So, as long as he has a heart of benevolence and righteousness, he is a person. Although you cannot see this heart of benevolence and righteousness, and sometimes he does not show it, everyone must have it."
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